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Old 09-19-2012, 08:35 AM   #1
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Default How many divisions can you name where there is a obvious #1 worldwide?

for me, only heavyweight and light flyweight. but even there it is not easy, because even now vitaly could beat his brother and roman gonzales never faced the top 5 from boxrec as for now. also Kazuto Ioka may move up and looks like one of the best prospects in all of boxing.

cruiserweight-ross hernandez was a draw in my eyes. than there is lebedev

lh-well what would happen if ward moved up. can shumanov beat dawson?

light middleweight-mayweather is the best, if he fights, is he retired or not. is canelo young and fresh enough to beat the aging superstar?

super featherweight is a lock, no one is better than uchiyama, since broner left
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:36 AM   #2
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Sergio Martinez at Middleweight
Andre Ward Super Middleweight (obviously)

Those are the glaring two you missed.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:55 AM   #3
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160 Lbs Sergio Martinez.
168 Lbs Andre Ward, no real way to debate this one.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:18 AM   #4
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160 Martinez
168 Ward
154 Floyd Mayweather Jr (Can't debate this)
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:28 AM   #5
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160 Martinez
168 Ward
154 Floyd Mayweather Jr (Can't debate this)
Its hard to say Floyd is #1 at 154 though because we dont know if he will stay at 154 or 147. Even if he can give a run to anyone at 154, his weight class will most likely stay at 147. His weight class is not 154.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:30 AM   #6
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Its hard to say Floyd is #1 at 154 though because we dont know if he will stay at 154 or 147. Even if he can give a run to anyone at 154, his weight class will most likely stay at 147. His weight class is not 154.
He beat the best 154 4 months ago with relative ease. It's very easy to deduce that he is in fact the top dog in both 147 and 154.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:32 AM   #7
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Gonzalez LFW, Gamboa FW, JMM LW, ***y MW, Ward SMW, Klitschko(s) HW.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:35 AM   #8
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i think the cotto fight was unique to why it happened at 154.

but yeah, id say Mayweather is #1 Welterweight, not 154, but it could be argued that his the best in both.

if the superfight happens, im sure it will be at welterweight, both there divisions.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:36 AM   #9
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Its hard to say Floyd is #1 at 154 though because we dont know if he will stay at 154 or 147. Even if he can give a run to anyone at 154, his weight class will most likely stay at 147. His weight class is not 154.
I agree, he has only fought twice at the weight (I think?) so its hard to judge

Martinez and Ward are the obvious omissions from the OP.
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:02 PM   #10
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Sergio Martinez at Middleweight
Andre Ward Super Middleweight (obviously)

Those are the glaring two you missed.
just 2 divisions in 16 divisions. I hate boxing for that, if more big fights would be made, rigondeaux-donaire/garcia-matthysse/mayweather-canelo we would know for sure who the best in the world is. right now, even those 2 divisions, ward never faced direll, martinez never golovkin we don't know for sure who the #1 is. isn't that sad.

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160 Martinez
168 Ward
154 Floyd Mayweather Jr (Can't debate this)
154 canelo, lara would give floyd a run for his money, also I think he beats them, but he should face them.
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:26 PM   #11
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HW Wladimir Klitschko
CW Denis Lebedev
SMW Andre Ward
MW Sergio Martinez
SWW Floyd - I don't think he is a clear best at 154, beating Cotto doesn't prove **** at 154
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:31 PM   #12
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Heavy, super middle, middle, jr middle (Floyd)
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for me, only heavyweight and light flyweight. but even there it is not easy, because even now vitaly could beat his brother and roman gonzales never faced the top 5 from boxrec as for now. also Kazuto Ioka may move up and looks like one of the best prospects in all of boxing.

cruiserweight-ross hernandez was a draw in my eyes. than there is lebedev

lh-well what would happen if ward moved up. can shumanov beat dawson?

light middleweight-mayweather is the best, if he fights, is he retired or not. is canelo young and fresh enough to beat the aging superstar?

super featherweight is a lock, no one is better than uchiyama, since broner left
Wlad would KO Vitali if they fought today
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three names Wlad, Ward , Floyd
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:58 AM   #15
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Floyd isn't clearly the best at 154 if he doesn't fight ***y Sergio there. Or 147 if he don't fight Pac.
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