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View Poll Results: Are Mayweather's test Olympic Standard
Yes, It is apart of the WADA testing program. 7 18.42%
No, it is sub-standard with holes in where you can dope. 31 81.58%
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:37 AM   #31
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I agree, I think Floyd should test year round and make all his future opponents start testing right now as well. Pacquiao needs to sign a contract today saying he agrees to get tested randomly today all the way up to the fight next year
But without the roids how will Floyd put on his 15lbs of muscle back on?

It takes longer than a year to put that on naturally, especially at 35.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:20 PM   #32
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I'm more concerned with Conte working in sport.

He advises VADA nothing more though, the testing is done at WADA accredited labs.

Conte is like the ex-mafia man with the insider knowledge to bring down his former pals and people like them.
If he had all this insider knowledge he wouldn't be wrong all the time about the testing procedures.

He was saying that USADA does not do any CIR testing at all, which was proved false. And his client was also caught

I wouldn't trust Conte as far as I could kick him.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:25 PM   #33
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But without the roids how will Floyd put on his 15lbs of muscle back on?

It takes longer than a year to put that on naturally, especially at 35.
Once he gets back to his normal diet, he should gain some of it. That is a big issue though. I think a lot of that weight is water weight though
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:25 PM   #34
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If he had all this insider knowledge he wouldn't be wrong all the time about the testing procedures.

He was saying that USADA does not do any CIR testing at all, which was proved false. And his client was also caught

I wouldn't trust Conte as far as I could kick him.
No he said they don't CIR test all samples, which is WADA's line which USADA follows.

You need people like Conte though, the best net security guys are former hackers.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:27 PM   #35
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No he said they don't CIR test all samples, which is WADA's line which USADA follows.

You need people like Conte though, the best net security guys are former hackers.
No USADA said they use CIR testing on various samples,

Conte was on Montoya's radio show saying the USADA doesn't have the proper analysts to CIR test therefore not doing it for boxing matches (which was incorrect) as USADA have stated they've done it for every commissioned boxing bout.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:28 PM   #36
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Once he gets back to his normal diet, he should gain some of it. That is a big issue though. I think a lot of that weight is water weight though
I know Floyd was used to the bottle water but I'm sure he took on some fluids in jail.


I don't buy that 15lbs loss in muscle story.
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I know Floyd was used to the bottle water but I'm sure he took on some fluids in jail.


I don't buy that 15lbs loss in muscle story.
Highly doubt he lost 15 lbs. Floyd is kind of a drama queen that way, he looks around 147 imo
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:30 PM   #38
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Floyd said he was on candy bars and cookies in jail, so its reasonable that he lost some weight but I doubt it was 15 lbs of "muscle" as he or his camp put it.

And testing can only do so much, there are ways to get around it.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:30 PM   #39
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I know Floyd was used to the bottle water but I'm sure he took on some fluids in jail.


I don't buy that 15lbs loss in muscle story.
It's not hard to believe. Plus he didn't day it was all muscle
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:32 PM   #40
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I agree, I think Floyd should test year round and make all his future opponents start testing right now as well. Pacquiao needs to sign a contract today saying he agrees to get tested randomly today all the way up to the fight next year
First off, who are his FUTURE opponents? And how do you guarntee Floyd even faces all these 'future' opponnets floyd makes take and pay for the tests? Your proposal isn't realistic. I mean, it's not a bad idea, but too many things can happen. If Floyd was the leader in the testing brigade, he's do what Doniare has started.
If Floyd was serious about cleaning the sport, which we all know was a bunch of crap, he would have used his star power and pull to do something about it. BUT....at least from this bullshit excuse to duck Pac, he's brought some awareness to something that boxing should address. However, any new testing implementations MUST go through the state commisions. As it stands, USADA only has to release their results to their client, and that's GBP or Floyd (depending on how it's written up). And by doing that, they are in accordance with the law. I think ALL test results need to be given to the state commissions, as well as any contract GBP or Mayweather has w/ USADA for a review. We want transparency.

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It's not hard to believe. Plus he didn't day it was all muscle

If he it is true, then he is a bigger idiot than I thought because he must have been skipping meals in jail.

And your body likes to go to your natural weight, so what is he taking on the outside to keep him up that high.
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Mayweather should be applauded for catching the drug cheats and for exposing those refusing to test in their big fights.
What drug cheats has Mayweather caught?

Name one.

He hasn't caught anyone.

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What drug cheats has Mayweather caught?

Name one.

He hasn't caught anyone.

He caught his daddy with drugs a few times.
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Some people seem to think that the tests that Mayweather has used for his fights, since Pacquiao wanted to fight him, are Olympic Standard and are used for athletes that have signed up to the WADA testing program.

This is simply not the case, and what is more is that there are gaping holes in the testing procedure that allow the athletes to use PEDs and get away with it.

And with an athlete like Floyd who takes long breaks out of the game it possible he could take all kinds of illegal PEDs and get away with it, while a fighter that fights regularly would get caught out by the standard NSAC post-fight urine test.

This is the WADA testing program which Olympic athletes have to sign up to.

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The testing is 365 day a year as well as testing at events. Floyd has not signed up to the WADA testing program.


Only one boxer at present has put himself forward to Olympic Standard Testing, and that is Nonito Donaire.

Floyd testing is only done over a 60 day period prior to the fight and post fight tests.

This leaves a large window throughout the rest of the year where Floyd could take any PED he desires and then get it flushed from his system but still be able to reap the benefits from it.

It also WADA's protocol to have athletes that have retire to be on the testing program for 9 months before being able to compete, Floyd does not adhere to this.

Until recently USADA did not CIR test all of it's sample, a test for artificial testosterone.

This could allow their athletes to micro-dope by only taking small amount of testosterone to keep them under the limit where the sample would be CIR tested.

VADA do test all there samples with CIR testing and caught out Peterson this way.


But even with full WADA testing the cheats can still get through, as we have seen with Lance Armstrong.
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