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Old 09-26-2012, 01:22 PM   #181
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Really don't see the big deal, the whole episode was pointless. Floyd didn't even bother turn up to court to busy betting on football games to give a damn about pac's lawsuit.


As for the apology another pointless gesture as floyd in several interviews has already said he didn't say pac was on PEDS and that pac is a great fighter, whilst also suggesting in other interviews pac is on PEDS and is a cheat.

So no need to get excited about this gesture it's a very empty one at best.
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:30 PM   #182
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The blood test never even came up until Pacquiao and Mayweather had agreed everything and Pacquiao signed his end of the contract.

And to begin with there were only 3 tests, at the start of the promotional tour, 30 days before the fight and after the fight.

Pacquiao agreed and Floyd moved the goalposts.

A start to a trend that would go on for the next 3 years.

Don't why Pacquiao even wastes his time on Floyd, he has never wanted the fight.
so full of shit. floyd never even saw the original contract offer until it got sent to him and he saw all of pacs stipulations, so floyd wanted one of his own which was blood testing.
pac declined the new contrac, they went into mediations and pac and company cancelled the fight
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:38 PM   #183
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not surprised at all that nothing happened. floyd aint releasing his medical records to pacquiao or anybody
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:42 PM   #184
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so full of shit. floyd never even saw the original contract offer until it got sent to him and he saw all of pacs stipulations, so floyd wanted one of his own which was blood testing.
pac declined the new contrac, they went into mediations and pac and company cancelled the fight
The weight penalty was demanded AFTER all the accusations and blood testing demands flew from the Mayweather camp.

Fact is....Floyd stated BEFORE any negotiations started that PAC was going to be his "easiest" opponent and at the same time offer him his "biggest" financial reward.

So his accusations.....his demands and his "negotiations tactics" didn't exactly scream ..."I want to fight Manny". It actually pointed to the exact opposite.

Had Floyd went about business as usual we would have already had this fight.....but of course that's not what happened.
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:42 PM   #185
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:27 PM   #186
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The weight penalty was demanded AFTER all the accusations and blood testing demands flew from the Mayweather camp.
false, it was in the original contract. pac was the one who started requesting extra stuff. so why cant floyd? oh wait because you don't like him
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:38 PM   #187
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It hasn't cleared his name though, all Mayweather has done is repeat what he said over a year ago in that he didn't say Pacquiao was using steroids. People will still continue to question why he turned down a $40 million drugs test and he will have to step up and take the tests Mayweather wants if the fight is to happen.

The $114 Mayweather had to pay was because he didn't even bother turning up in court, not because anything had been proven one way or another.

Bladegunner was right in what he said, it's been a complete nothing case that has petered out to the point that both Pacquiao and Mayweather dropped their suits and ended up paying their own fee's.
Ok.. I read it and thought that's what was happening.. But I see all the Pac fans celebrating some sort of victory, so I was confused and wondering if I was missing something.. Guess not.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:38 PM   #188
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1 source? and better sources?

PACQUIAO VS MARQUEZ 3


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  • Max Kellerman, HBO: 114-114 Draw
  • Brian Arman Graham, Sports Illustrated: 114-114 Draw
  • Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 114-114 Draw
  • Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 114-114 Draw
  • Kieran Mulvaney, ESPN/Reuters: 114-114 Draw
  • Dan Rafael, ESPN: 114-114 Draw
  • Brian Campbell, ESPN Mobile: 114-114 Draw
  • george Elsasser, BraggingRightsCorner.com: 114-114 Draw
  • Jake Emen, ProBoxing-Fans.com: 114-114 Draw
  • Anthony Whitby, BoxingIQ.com: 114-114 Draw
  • Jeff Powell, The Daily Mail (UK): 114-114 Draw
  • Pace Miller, BleacherReport.com: 114-114 Draw
  • Gareth Davies, London Telegraph: 114-114 Draw
  • Larry Merchant, HBO: 114-114 Draw
  • Elie Seckbach, ESNews.com/AOL News: 114-114 Draw
  • Roy Jones, Jr.: Draw
  • Joe Bruiser, FightFan.com: 116-116 Draw
  • Michael Wright, ESPNChicago.com: Draw
  • Mark Lichtenfeld, Ring Announcer/Member, Ring Magazine Ratings Panel: 114-114 Draw
  • Teddy June, RingJunkies.com: 114-114 Draw
  • Rick Reeno, ***********.com: 114-114 Draw
  • Robert Ecksel, Boxing.com: 114-114 Draw
  • Frank Baltazar, Fight Manager/Inductee, California Boxing Hall of Fame: 115-115 Draw
  • ****** Tate, BleacherReport.com: 114-114 Draw
  • Doug Fischer, Ring Magazine: 114-114 Draw
  • Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 114-114 Draw
  • Gary Andrew Pool, The Atlantic: 114-114 Draw
  • Beau Denison, SportsPageMagazine.com: 114-114 Draw
  • Daniel Herbert, Boxing News: 114-114 Draw
  • Leighton Ginn, Desert Sun (Palm Springs): 114-114 Draw
  • Doveed Linder, BoxingTalk.com: 114-114 Draw
  • Bob Papa, HBO: 114-114 Draw
  • Andrew Eisele, Boxing.about.com: 115-115 Draw
  • Charles Horgan, Boxing Tribune: 114-114 Draw
  • Kevin Cunningham, Boxing Trainer: Draw
  • Harold Lederman, HBO: 116-112 Pacquiao
  • Joseph Herron, FightSaga: 116-112 Pacquiao
  • Cliff Rold, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Will Carroll, Sports Illustrated: 116-112 Pacquiao
  • Allen Barra, The Atlantic: 116-113 Pacquiao
  • Chris Koegler, TheRealHook.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • David Kassel, FightHype.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Rob Rutz, MyBoxingFans.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Sean Sullivan, BoxingDigest: 115-114 Pacquiao
  • Ted Sares, Boxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
  • Brian Mazique, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Glen Anglin, BoxingNews24.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Michael Rosenthal, Editor, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Skip Bayless, ESPN: 116-112 Pacquiao
  • Jake Donovan, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Ken Hissner, DogHouseBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
  • Bill Shimizu, Examiner.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Massimo Lopes Pegna, La Gazzetta dello Sport (Italy): 115-114 Pacquiao
  • James Foley, BleacherReport.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
  • Anthony Lee, BoxingNews24.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
  • John McCormick, BoxingTalk.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Graham Houston, FightWriter.com/FightNews.com/ESPN: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Nick Fors, Pasionsports.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Ronald Geronimo, NowBoxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Danny Serratelli, EastSideBoxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Ace Freeman, FightFan.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Sean Faye, Eurosport Yahoo!: 116-115 Pacquiao
  • Scott Shaffer, BoxingTalk.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Nate Ravitz, ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
  • Mike Chiari, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Patrick L. Stumberg, SBNation: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Colin Seymour, FrontPageBoxing.com/Examiner.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Jason Peck, EastSideBoxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
  • Steve Busfield, The Guardian: 116-114 Pacquiao
  • Nick Fox, Bad Left Hook: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Stephen Edwards, BoxingTalk.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Max Parker, Boxing Watchers: 115-114 Pacquiao
  • Adam Hirshfield, Bleacher Report.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • King J Gladney, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Ben Weisman, *****************: 116-113 Pacquiao
  • Ken Pollitt, the13thround.com: 116-113 Pacquiao
  • Michael David Smith, AOL NEWS/MMA Fighting.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Madra Uladh, EastSideBoxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Michael Woods, ESPN/TheSweetScience.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
  • Brad Cooney, 8CountNews.com/Examiner.com: Pacquiao by one round
  • "Old Yank" Schneider, Boxing.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
  • Greg Leon, BoxingTalk.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
  • Steve Marzolf, InsideHBOBoxing.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
  • Darrell La Montre, BoxingTalk.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
  • Terra (Brazil): 116-112 Pacquiao
  • Joel Huerto, SportsFanLive: 115-113 Pacquiao
Among the unofficial scorers above, 57 scored the bout for Marquez, 51 scored the bout for Pacquiao, and the remaining 36 scored the bout a draw.

It was a close fight. No way this fight is a Robbery compared to Williams vs Lara who fought in 2011.
just shut your ass up
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:41 PM   #189
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just shut your ass up
Why does the truth hurt you so much?
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:42 PM   #190
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so you hate a person who uses the legal remedies provided in a civilized society yet idolize a guard poking, wife beating, ex con.

i knew it. void fans are degenerates.
sensitiveass culture

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This.

Floyd said Mosley was on steroids during 24/7. What did Mosley do? Tried to knock his head off.

Ali called Frazier all sorts of shit. Did Frazier sue?

Leonard said Hearns had to have been on steroids. Hearns agreed to stronger testing instead of suing.
foreal man. I'm embarrassed for boxing

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Defamation of character?

Floyd broke the law.

And when you make mistakes you have to pay.


How I start spreading rumours about you, that you like touching little boys, and go round saying that I know you do, say this on national TV and get other people believing it too.

Even though I just made it up and have zero evidence, wouldn't you feel a little aggrieved?

And if it affected your income, how people viewed you, people will ask you about it and doubt you.

Would you use the law of the land to put things right?
Pac filed a lawsuit because Floyd asked for the drug testing, not because he ever accused him. Find me one quote from Floyd that even HINTS at Pac taking anything before the lawsuit is filed.


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rahman never called Lewis a fag NEWBIE. try again
Whether he did or not doesn't matter. Lewis thought Rahman called him one just like Pac thought Floyd called him one when he never did directly.

I wonder why Leiws didn't sue
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:46 PM   #191
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Why does the truth hurt you so much?
do you know who Skip Bayless is? If that's the type of "experts" that list is showing, then that list is bullshit. I'm more of an expert than Skip Bayless.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:48 PM   #192
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false, it was in the original contract. pac was the one who started requesting extra stuff. so why cant floyd? oh wait because you don't like him
You realize the contracts were written up after the accusations and demands of additional testing right? The weight penalty demand came after all of that....It was just as ridiculous as Floyds accusations and demands to be completely honest. it was a "knee jerk reaction" to the special demands from Floyd.

If you think about it....why else would PAC ask for with EXTREME weight penalty?

Do you think Bob or Manny really thought Floyd couldn't make 147? When he made 146 in his fight with JMM...which he did miss the catch weight limit of 144.

Floyd was the one who acted out of character the moment things got real and he knew the fight with PAC was around the corner....that was in 2009....If Floyd wanted this fight it would have already happened. Real talk.

I like Floyd....he's a little corny and makes some really dumb decisions but he's an incredible boxer and I love watching him fight.

I just don't give Floyd a pass when he's clearly in the wrong. If you want to, Be my guest but I rather not let Floyd make me look like a fool just because I like him.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:49 PM   #193
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do you know who Skip Bayless is? If that's the type of "experts" that list is showing, then that list is bullshit. I'm more of an expert than Skip Bayless.
And what about the other 119?
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:49 PM   #194
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A 1 dimensional one, no less. It's amazing how this 1 dimension carried him over 7 weight classes, eh.
Diaz at 140 Cotto and Margo "both after a brutal KO" for vacated belts so it is not like he fought the top guys for the belt at the time.

Belts don't mean anything Manny proved that by not getting his back from Bradley..
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"Floyd Mayweather Jr., Floyd Mayweather Sr., Roger Mayweather and Mayweather Promotions wish to make it clear that they never intended to claim that Manny Pacquiao has used or is using any performance enhancing drugs, nor are they aware of any evidence that Manny Pacquiao has used performance enhancing drugs.

Manny Pacquiao is a great champion, and no one should construe any of our prior remarks as claiming that Manny Pacquiao has used performance enhancing drugs."
Difference in that statement from the one below is?

Updated: June 29, 2011, 12:22 PM ET
"I've never said that Manny Pacquiao was taking steroids, I never said he was taking enhancement drugs," said Mayweather, who failed to turn up for a court-ordered deposition in Las Vegas earlier this month involving the defamation suit.

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