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Old 09-27-2012, 03:21 PM   #331
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How pathetic a boxer sues another boxer,and is still offered 40 mill and still does not want to fight.. Where is Pac's integrity,one thing to say Floyd has none,but neither does Pac..
Floyd turn down 50 million, his biggest pay day ever.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:45 PM   #332
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it was olympic style. whats not olympic style about it?

and of course floyd asked them to work the fight. who else was he going to ask? they were the only ones capable of doing random tests.

floyd had no problem adhereing to pac's own brand of overweight penalties did he so why would he turn down random drug testing?

he wouldnt
....it's RANDOM testing...the same kind they use in the NFL and NBA. Floyd was smart in how he "branded" his testing and the fact he sought out the USADA was very calculated.....Floyd called it Olympic Style because it added credibility to his cause...

Which wouldn't have been a problem if he was doing it to better the sport instead of doing it to tarnish another mans image and avoid the fight.

I know...Floyd created this whole "Olympic Style testing" to "Clean up boxing".....If you believe that then more power to you...but I'm not that gullible...

When Floyd and Bob were going back and forth about the whole cut off....blood tests and who would administer the testing....the NFL and NBA were in the mix...that was the request of Top Rank and it seemed they were going to agree to that...but then Floyd took a hard stance on ONLY using the USADA.

You know how negotiations are.....it's a power struggle...one guy wants one thing the other wants another...they're suppose to compromise... But Floyd hasn't really wanted to compromise.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:38 PM   #333
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Considering Marquez had lost to a hard punching southpaw prior to pac. Barrera had been beaten up and KO'd before

Anything is possible, it's boxing.
so any ordinary fighter would have fought barrera, marquez and morales in just a span of 16 months and not get even knockdowned in the process?
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:39 PM   #334
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Floyd turn down 50 million, his biggest pay day ever.
floyd also turned down a fair 50/50 split or a 55/45 to the winner.

flomos have no leg to stand on. they knew floyd is full of shit.
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:28 PM   #335
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....it's RANDOM testing...the same kind they use in the NFL and NBA. Floyd was smart in how he "branded" his testing and the fact he sought out the USADA was very calculated.....Floyd called it Olympic Style because it added credibility to his cause...

Which wouldn't have been a problem if he was doing it to better the sport instead of doing it to tarnish another mans image and avoid the fight.

I know...Floyd created this whole "Olympic Style testing" to "Clean up boxing".....If you believe that then more power to you...but I'm not that gullible...

When Floyd and Bob were going back and forth about the whole cut off....blood tests and who would administer the testing....the NFL and NBA were in the mix...that was the request of Top Rank and it seemed they were going to agree to that...but then Floyd took a hard stance on ONLY using the USADA.

You know how negotiations are.....it's a power struggle...one guy wants one thing the other wants another...they're suppose to compromise... But Floyd hasn't really wanted to compromise.
So who else was Floyd supposed to ask to do the tests? If he had named it MLB testing would that have been better? regardless whatever the motive it shouldn't matter if pac had just agreed like every other fighter has he wouldnt be linked with steroids
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:59 PM   #336
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So who else was Floyd supposed to ask to do the tests? If he had named it MLB testing would that have been better? regardless whatever the motive it shouldn't matter if pac had just agreed like every other fighter has he wouldnt be linked with steroids
USADA was a great choice....but they were not the only option....had Floyd chose MLB, I'm sure Bob would have asked for NFL......You feel me?

Negotiations involve 2 or more parties....meaning all those involved in the negotiations have a voice....the trick is to satisfy ALL or in this case, BOTH parties through a little "give and take".... Because let's face it....these 2 players are both some BOSSES.

When one side dictates or fails to comprise, guess what happens? Never mind....I'll tell you, negotiations FAIL! If this were a business deal between GOOGLE & Apple and Apple went about "negotiations" by insulting GOOGLE, then demanded GOOGLE subject themselves to an audit by a company of Apple's liking....You know what would happen? Exactly what happen when Floyd used the same tactics in negotiating with Manny.

Well.....GOOGLE wouldn't have made it to the negotiation table if we are keeping it 100.

If Floyd had just been more professional....or respectful....things would have turned out a lot different....or even if he went about business like he actually wanted to make this fight with Pac it would have happened.

If Floyd went about negotiations like he had 40 some odd times before, the whole Pac fiasco we would have seen this fight!

99.999999999% of all boxers in the game today, don't do Floyds tests....no one other than Floyd has needed Pac to test for them to fight him. If Floyd acted as he did before Pac was an option......we wouldn't be having this debate becuase we would already have the answer to the $150 million dollar question..."who would win in a fight between Floyd and Manny".

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Old 09-27-2012, 09:58 PM   #337
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USADA was a great choice....but they were not the only option....had Floyd chose MLB, I'm sure Bob would have asked for NFL......You feel me?

Negotiations involve 2 or more parties....meaning all those involved in the negotiations have a voice....the trick is to satisfy ALL or in this case, BOTH parties through a little "give and take".... Because let's face it....these 2 players are both some BOSSES.

When one side dictates or fails to comprise, guess what happens? Never mind....I'll tell you, negotiations FAIL! If this were a business deal between GOOGLE & Apple and Apple went about "negotiations" by insulting GOOGLE, then demanded GOOGLE subject themselves to an audit by a company of Apple's liking....You know what would happen? Exactly what happen when Floyd used the same tactics in negotiating with Manny.

Well.....GOOGLE wouldn't have made it to the negotiation table if we are keeping it 100.

If Floyd had just been more professional....or respectful....things would have turned out a lot different....or even if he went about business like he actually wanted to make this fight with Pac it would have happened.

If Floyd went about negotiations like he had 40 some odd times before, the whole Pac fiasco we would have seen this fight!

99.999999999% of all boxers in the game today, don't do Floyds tests....no one other than Floyd has needed Pac to test for them to fight him. If Floyd acted as he did before Pac was an option......we wouldn't be having this debate becuase we would already have the answer to the $150 million dollar question..."who would win in a fight between Floyd and Manny".
And no one besides Pac has ever turned down a career high payday over blood testing and got caught in a lie over it.

Floyd agreed to EVERYTHING. Pac didn't and it killed the fight. End of.
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Old 09-27-2012, 10:01 PM   #338
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And no one besides Pac has ever turned down a career high payday over blood testing and got caught in a lie over it.

Floyd agreed to EVERYTHING. Pac didn't and it killed the fight. End of.
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:35 AM   #339
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Considering Marquez had lost to a hard punching southpaw prior to pac. Barrera had been beaten up and KO'd before

Anything is possible, it's boxing.
My god, you are a ****ing tool.
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:04 AM   #340
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And no one besides Pac has ever turned down a career high payday over blood testing and got caught in a lie over it.

Floyd agreed to EVERYTHING. Pac didn't and it killed the fight. End of.

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Old 09-28-2012, 01:37 AM   #341
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could've schooled Pac a long time ago

but he wants to clean the sport up
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Old 09-28-2012, 08:07 AM   #342
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And no one besides Pac has ever turned down a career high payday over blood testing and got caught in a lie over it.

Floyd agreed to EVERYTHING. Pac didn't and it killed the fight. End of.
Floyd agreed to what? A ridiculously attempt from Pac's camp to regain some control of negotiations with the $10 mill per every lb over 147? After the accusations & blood testing demands from Floyd a lot of shit went nutty......this was not suppose to be this hard.

Floyd set things off.....Anytime there's problem, to find the cause you locate where the problem began.

At the root of this problem we find Floyd Mayeather Jr. End of. Oh....and this would also be Floyd's career high payday as well.
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Floyd agreed to what? A ridiculously attempt from Pac's camp to regain some control of negotiations with the $10 mill per every lb over 147? After the accusations & blood testing demands from Floyd a lot of shit went nutty......this was not suppose to be this hard.

Floyd set things off.....Anytime there's problem, to find the cause you locate where the problem began.

At the root of this problem we find Floyd Mayeather Jr. End of. Oh....and this would also be Floyd's career high payday as well.
the original contract had the 10 million overweight penalties in it. floyd saw it, and asked for blood testing so no one would cheat, just like why pac had the overweight penalties. your timeline is horribly miffed
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:37 PM   #344
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....it's RANDOM testing...the same kind they use in the NFL and NBA. Floyd was smart in how he "branded" his testing and the fact he sought out the USADA was very calculated.....Floyd called it Olympic Style because it added credibility to his cause...
Right, because seeking out the most nationally known and respected organization and widely used network of labs that are governed by international protocols (WADA) for sporting events AND has experience with boxing (Olympics) is 'very calculated' when compared to using a different sports leagues' protocols and testing which dayum near every fan on the planet KNOWS is inadequate (NFL, MLB).

Only in the minds of Pac fans does this make sense.

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Which wouldn't have been a problem if he was doing it to better the sport instead of doing it to tarnish another mans image and avoid the fight.

I know...Floyd created this whole "Olympic Style testing" to "Clean up boxing".....If you believe that then more power to you...but I'm not that gullible...
And yet, it appears to be having that effect. Which puts the sport in a better place than it was before he raised the subject.

But only in the minds of Pac fans is this a negative.

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When Floyd and Bob were going back and forth about the whole cut off....blood tests and who would administer the testing....the NFL and NBA were in the mix...that was the request of Top Rank and it seemed they were going to agree to that...but then Floyd took a hard stance on ONLY using the USADA.
The NFL doesn't do blood testing. Neither does the NBA. MLB runs its own testing (not independent) and just started blood testing in 2010 (at the minor league level)

So why in Dec. '09 are you listening to Bob Arum talking about using these leagues' protocols and testing when they didn't even have random blood testing in place? And 3 years later you're still holding on to this?

Only in the minds of Pac Fans does this make sense.

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You know how negotiations are.....it's a power struggle...one guy wants one thing the other wants another...they're suppose to compromise... But Floyd hasn't really wanted to compromise.
Yeah, if PBF could have accepted a major sports leagues' non existent random blood testing program for this fight , everything would have been ok.

Pimp harder, lame.
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:55 PM   #345
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floyd also turned down a fair 50/50 split or a 55/45 to the winner.

flomos have no leg to stand on. they knew floyd is full of shit.
You one stupid person.

50/50 was a horrible share for Floyd. He would make pennies more than he made for Cotto while Manny would more than double his high payday.

Pactards like this bitch are just stupid. How do you even stay on this website with stupid ass info.

I bet you get beat up a lot. You talk a lotta shit but you never back it up with sources.

In puga words, "why no Arum want no send book to 3rd party accounting firm?"

Picking on this asshole is so easy it's not even fun anymore.

SJS bitch, I better ask if I can keep treating him like this LOL...SJS pimps this dude.
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