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Old 09-26-2012, 01:59 PM   #16
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That's dependent on how Dawson looks. Recklessly trying to lose that much weight could affect him for the rest of his career a la Jones. If Ward had decided to take a risk for a change and move up for the first fight, then maybe, but as usual he wanted everything on his terms.
I agree with you, but I think Ward would do the same to Dawson at 175.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:00 PM   #17
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Probably 10 wins on Floyds resume better than Wards win over Starving Chad Dawson.
Took the words right outta my mouth.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:01 PM   #18
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I think Floyd has 4 wins that come close..

Genarro Hernandez
Diego Corrales
Castillo 2
De La Hoya

If Ward would have beaten Chad at 175 I would have said it was a better win hands down then all of those.. Still a great win though.
ROFL.

I give Ward beating Chad as much as i give Floyd beating Zab.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:01 PM   #19
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I think Floyd has 4 wins that come close..

Genarro Hernandez
Diego Corrales
Castillo 2
De La Hoya

If Ward would have beaten Chad at 175 I would have said it was a better win hands down then all of those.. Still a great win though.

Ward's win against a weight-drained-lethargic 168 pounds Chad Dawson overshadows Floyd's best wins + Calzaghe's best wins + Marciano's best wins + Ali's best wins , period !
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:01 PM   #20
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That's news to me Lol.. Just bringing up a boxing subject that I believe is arguable. I thought that was the whole point of a Boxing forum
You're entitled to your opinion but wards career is starting to peak right now and hasn't accomplished 1/10 compared to Void.

Let him clean out the division and move up a few weight classes to fight the top guys and then he might have a resume on par with Mayweather's.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:02 PM   #21
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A few people including Larry Merchant tried to say Corrales was drained as well. Even still the victory over Dawson would've been better at 175. Ward has had an impressive career so far, but Floyd has had success over a much longer period. I'm a huge Ward fan, but I'm not putting any stock into Ward being a HOFer until I see sustained success.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:06 PM   #22
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A few people including Larry Merchant tried to say Corrales was drained as well. Even still the victory over Dawson would've been better at 175. Ward has had an impressive career so far, but Floyd has had success over a much longer period. I'm a huge Ward fan, but I'm not putting any stock into Ward being a HOFer until I see sustained success.
To be honest I think wards limit is the light heavy weight division.
I don't think he can over power a top cruiser weight.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:07 PM   #23
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Dawsons a hypejob bum
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:11 PM   #24
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To be honest I think wards limit is the light heavy weight division.
I don't think he can over power a top cruiser weight.
Remains to be seen. He fought in the olympics as a lightheavyweight, but had to stuff himself to get there. I'm interested to see how he takes a punch against top lightheavies.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:28 PM   #25
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Troll

Chad lost at 175lbs to Pascal, and his best win was over a 47 year old, and other fighters nearer to 40. Forget that?
How is that better than Corrales, De La Hoya, Castillo, Cotto, Hatton etc
Its not and Chad was fighting at a weight where he has no pedigree
Chad lost a close fight to Pascal, but had him hurt at the end and I believe he'd win a rematch. Regardless of how old he is beating Bernard Hopkins is an extremely difficult task.

Floyd did not dominate Cotto the way Ward dominated Dawson and before he fought Floyd Hatton's best win was against a declining Tzyu and many thought he lost to Collazo. While I think De La Hoya was a great win, he was a part time fighter at the time and it was a close fight.. Unlike Ward's win over Chad. Corrales and Castillio 2 were impressive wins though.

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Old 09-26-2012, 02:29 PM   #26
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It was a fantastic win for Ward.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:31 PM   #27
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no. about on par with floyd's win over manfredy
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:33 PM   #28
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:35 PM   #29
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You're entitled to your opinion but wards career is starting to peak right now and hasn't accomplished 1/10 compared to Void.

Let him clean out the division and move up a few weight classes to fight the top guys and then he might have a resume on par with Mayweather's.
I agree Mayweather clearly has accomplished more and thus far has the better career, but I think Ward's win over a Prime Light Heavyweight Champion with tremendous skills Chad Dawson is very impressive and some could argue it was as good a win or better then any in Floyd's career.. Like I said before it would have been more impressive if he did it at 175 though.
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