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Old 09-26-2012, 02:54 PM   #31
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Old 09-26-2012, 03:17 PM   #32
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floyd has a ton of wins better than Dawson. Hell, Ward has a couple as well.
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Old 09-26-2012, 03:54 PM   #33
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I think Floyd has 4 wins that come close..

Genarro Hernandez
Diego Corrales
Castillo 2
De La Hoya

If Ward would have beaten Chad at 175 I would have said it was a better win hands down then all of those.. Still a great win though.
Don't know about that, but Ward's overall resume is better.
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Old 09-26-2012, 03:56 PM   #34
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No because Dawson's skills were on the decline as evident in the Hopkins fight. Ward was a 4-1 favorite for a reason, because no one was impressed by Chad's performance against Hopkins and he was fighting at 168.
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:01 PM   #35
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Sven Warddke's win over Dawson is as relevant as a wet fart.just a brown stain on the underwear,nothing more....
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:05 PM   #36
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No... Chad coming down in weight where he was clearly not the same isn't as good as Floyd's wins coming up in weight against champions..
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:19 PM   #37
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No... Chad coming down in weight where he was clearly not the same isn't as good as Floyd's wins coming up in weight against champions..
The Dawson fight doesn't mean much in the grand scheme, yes, but when you realize who these 'champions' actually were...meh, the gap shrinks.
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:22 PM   #38
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Clearly better:
Genaro
Corrales
Castillo I
Castillo II
Oscar
Hatton
Cotto

Probably better:
Marquez

Close to as good as:
Chavez
Judah
Mosley
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:23 PM   #39
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It's on par. Floyd's wins over Corrales, Castillo, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, or Hernandez aren't much if any better. The difference is, obviously, Floyd has quite a few on that level. But yeah, Ward's dismantling of Ward is about as impressive as any single win Mayweather's got on his ledger.
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:40 PM   #40
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The Dawson fight doesn't mean much in the grand scheme, yes, but when you realize who these 'champions' actually were...meh, the gap shrinks.
Which 'champions' were worse than a Dawson who clearly wasn't the same fighter at 175?
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:54 PM   #41
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Which 'champions' were worse than a Dawson who clearly wasn't the same fighter at 175?
Didn't say they were 'worse', but it's not a huge gap.

Gatti-Shouldn't have to expound on this one.

Oscar-Haha

Baldy-Haha

Cotto-We can't forget the 5'7" Cotto with a 67" reach...who, supposedly, is fighting at his "natural weight" of 154.

Come to think of it...yeah, a couple of these guys are worse or on par with an emaciated Dawson. No doubt about it.

Oh, and since you mentioned it. Not sure any of these guys would qualify as being better than they once were. Expect maybe Baldy, but his bar was never that high to begin with.
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:54 PM   #42
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Clearly better:
Genaro
Corrales
Castillo I
Castillo II
Oscar
Hatton
Cotto

Probably better:
Marquez

Close to as good as:
Chavez
Judah
Mosley
I agree 100%
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Old 09-26-2012, 05:02 PM   #43
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Didn't say they were 'worse', but it's not a huge gap.

Gatti-Shouldn't have to expound on this one.

Oscar-Haha

Baldy-Haha

Cotto-We can't forget the 5'7" Cotto with a 67" reach...who, supposedly, is fighting at his "natural weight" of 154.

Come to think of it...yeah, a couple of these guys are worse or on par with an emaciated Dawson. No doubt about it.

Oh, and since you mentioned it. Not sure any of these guys would qualify as being better than they once were. Expect maybe Baldy, but his bar was never that high to begin with.
ok... I don't believe many people would have chose those wins as better than Dawson's to begin with... Thought you were talking about the Castillo, Corrales, Hernandez, etc type fights.
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Old 09-26-2012, 05:18 PM   #44
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no it's not. i don't give any credit for a win over a dead at the weight fighter. hell, floyds win over baldimir is better.
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Old 09-26-2012, 05:20 PM   #45
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So you're saying Ward can't do the same to Dawson at 175?
forget what he could or couldn't do at 175, that's neither here nor there. the fact is it took place at 168 where dawson was weight drained like hell. it meant nothing.
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