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Old 09-26-2012, 07:28 PM   #61
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Chad Dawson is an excellent athlete, but as a fighter, sorry, he's not a special fighter among champs.
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Old 09-26-2012, 07:29 PM   #62
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Yes I believe he could have.. Against Dawson, Ward was at his very best and looking to put on a show and stop him being that it was his first fight televised by HBO.. Against Miranda and Green he knew he could easily outbox them and didn't need to take any unnecessary chances looking for a KO..

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Ehh, lets see how it goes, if he keep knocking them out you'll have been right. I'll go with the fighter's history for now. It's not like it was a surprise Dawson was in bad shape at 168, it was only common sense. You haven't heard all those Dawson training camp stories, or you choose not to believe them?
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Old 09-26-2012, 07:40 PM   #63
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:19 PM   #64
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Yes I believe he could have.. Against Dawson, Ward was at his very best and looking to put on a show and stop him being that it was his first fight televised by HBO.. Against Miranda and Green he knew he could easily outbox them and didn't need to take any unnecessary chances looking for a KO..

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it seems it's funny post after funny post today.

ward had the same power that he's always had. dawson just couldn't take it after being drained. he got knocked out by mirander in sparring. and he weighed just below 174. they said he looked like shit at any weight lower than this.

and there's six pounds to go. it meant nothing. give it up.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:10 PM   #65
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it seems it's funny post after funny post today.

ward had the same power that he's always had. dawson just couldn't take it after being drained. he got knocked out by mirander in sparring. and he weighed just below 174. they said he looked like shit at any weight lower than this.

and there's six pounds to go. it meant nothing. give it up.
What is their to give up?.. I said he should have fought him at 175 so that he would get FULL credit with no excuses for the win, BUT I believe the same would have happened if the fight were at 175 that night... And no I don't believe Chad got KO'd by Miranda in sparring .
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:59 PM   #66
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Chad was not world ranked at all.

Corrales was ranked ahead of Floyd at #5 in the world while Floyd was #7 in the world at the time.

Top 10 world ranked fightes (Ring, ESPN, S.I) when Floyd fought them.

Corrales #5
Hatton #8
Marquez #2
Mosley #3
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:01 AM   #67
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What is their to give up?.. I said he should have fought him at 175 so that he would get FULL credit with no excuses for the win, BUT I believe the same would have happened if the fight were at 175 that night... And no I don't believe Chad got KO'd by Miranda in sparring .
I believe Kessler and Dawson should fight at 175 and the winner gets the rematch...hopefully sometime around when Ward is moving up to the weight.
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:28 AM   #68
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What is their to give up?.. I said he should have fought him at 175 so that he would get FULL credit with no excuses for the win, BUT I believe the same would have happened if the fight were at 175 that night... And no I don't believe Chad got KO'd by Miranda in sparring .
Did you check the 30 page Miranda sparring thread here? How about this item from the scene:

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Dawson's trained asked point blank, didn't bother denying, but said Dawson was unbelievably drained:

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Old 09-27-2012, 07:29 AM   #69
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Probably 10 wins on Floyds resume better than Wards win over Starving Chad Dawson.
Starving Chad Dawson

OP how would you reason Dawsn win > Corrales win?
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:38 AM   #70
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Stop this nonsense. One win against a fighter drained at the weight & now Wards the no.1 people that make threads like this... Make me wonder, when did you start watching boxing 2 years ago....
Look at Mayweathers body of work...factor in how old he was at the times of major victories
against top opposition...multi-divisional champion...numerous defenses....

Stop this nonsense...please

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Old 09-27-2012, 07:43 AM   #71
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Default Re: Is Ward's win over Dawson better then any in Floyd's career?

Wow... This is a remarkable thread. Is this a genuine question?

Hatton, Cotto, Oscar, Judah, and Corrales are all much better wins. Much, much better.

The Corrales one is closed in terms of scenario (weight drained) but the performance far exceeds Ward's.
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:09 AM   #72
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Did you check the 30 page Miranda sparring thread here? How about this item from the scene:

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Dawson's trained asked point blank, didn't bother denying, but said Dawson was unbelievably drained:

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This interview was after Ward already destroyed Chad so it holds no credibility.. Fighters and trainers always make excuses after a loss. Personally I gained much respect for Chad cause thus far he's said all the right things. Bottom line is Ward would have beaten Chad that night even if it was at 175.
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:11 AM   #73
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Stop this nonsense. One win against a fighter drained at the weight & now Wards the no.1 people that make threads like this... Make me wonder, when did you start watching boxing 2 years ago....
Look at Mayweathers body of work...factor in how old he was at the times of major victories
against top opposition...multi-divisional champion...numerous defense....

Stop this nonsense...please

Nobody said anything about a "body of work".. Floyd has clearly had the more glamorous career thus far.
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:16 AM   #74
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Wow... This is a remarkable thread. Is this a genuine question?

Hatton, Cotto, Oscar, Judah, and Corrales are all much better wins. Much, much better.

The Corrales one is closed in terms of scenario (weight drained) but the performance far exceeds Ward's.
I agreed with you Corrales, although some could argue he was also weight drained and wasn't mentally into the fight due to some personal issues. The other names u mentioned I already gave my reasons as to why they aren't better wins. Make a counter argument if you disagree.
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:17 AM   #75
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Mayweathers win over Marquez was better than Wards over Dawson and that is saying something.
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