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Old 09-27-2012, 02:20 PM   #16
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Default Re: Was Mike Tyson Prime against Razor Ruddock?

That's not his prime. Lacks head movement and combinations.
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Old 07-17-2016, 06:23 PM   #17
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That Tyson would have given anyone problems at the time. Anyone. Too bad Tyson was around then or The Razor would have been the best of that generation and could have beaten anyone. Tyson was all Razor ever had on his mind though. After those 2 fights, I think he lost his true desire, hence his losses to Lewis and Tommy. Even in his newest youtube videos from a year or so ago, he mentions the K-Bros, but he always goes back to Tyson. If he hadn't of fought Tyson before Lewis, I think that fight would have looked a lot different. He still would have had his nemesis.
I don't agree with that, Ruddock always fell short of the elite level and the fights with Tyson showed Mike's decline as a fighter. Holyfield, Bowe and Lewis would probably have defeated both of them regardless, which indeed Lewis did
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Old 07-18-2016, 02:45 AM   #18
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Tyson was not prime. Anyone saying other wise doesnt know what theyre talking about. This is the same Tyson who got ko`d by douglas in a fight inwhich he was already on the decline.
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He was out of his prime by 1990, sadly.
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Old 07-18-2016, 05:00 AM   #20
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Default Re: Was Mike Tyson Prime against Razor Ruddock?

Physically he was in his prime and mentally he was wanting to prove a point, after the loss to Douglas, so I'd assume he was motivated as much as he ever was.

But boxing isn't just about physical ability or even motivation there's a big skill element and his skills were not the same, his defence was such a big part of his style and it was no longer there to the same level. He was at his most effective when making fighters miss and then ripping in counters, this Tyson was just marching forward and throwing bombs, he wasn't the same.
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Old 07-18-2016, 09:55 AM   #21
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I don't agree with that, Ruddock always fell short of the elite level and the fights with Tyson showed Mike's decline as a fighter. Holyfield, Bowe and Lewis would probably have defeated both of them regardless, which indeed Lewis did
Lewis beat a faded Tyson. The Lewis of that time was going life and death with Ray Mercer and was knocked out in his very next fight against Oliver McCall. Pre-prison Tyson would have likely knocked him out in a few rounds.
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Old 07-18-2016, 12:55 PM   #22
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Default Re: Was Mike Tyson Prime against Razor Ruddock?

Yes, Tyson was in his prime against Razor Ruddock. Keep in mind, Tyson's two previous fights prior to Ruddock were against Tillman and Stewart, which Tyson has always said were his best performances.

However, I think we can all agree that anything after Bruno II was past Tyson's prime.
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Old 07-18-2016, 01:10 PM   #23
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He had slowed down a bit and was starting to trade if you watch the rabblta or Tucker fights he was slipping punches as he attacks he was very hard to hit .I don't think ruddock could do much with that version of mike .mike was still very dangerous but could be hit more easily than the late eighties version.
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