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Old 09-27-2012, 01:11 PM   #16
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if the fans weren't so anal about boxrec records then the official result wouldn't matter as much as the actual performance. Fighters would bounce back quickly from poor decisions and their careers wouldn't suffer as much.
It would matter less, but it still matters a lot.

The difference in becoming a champ or being the loser by a slight margin is quite big, and can be the difference between fighting a high paid megafight next or fighting against some stiff for maybe 50 grand.

And in some cases the difference can be even bigger.
Just think about it what would have happened if the judges gave Norton vs Ali II to Norton, or Frazier vs Ali to Frazier a couple of months later?
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Old 09-27-2012, 01:41 PM   #17
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If fighter A wins 5 rounds convincingly, but loses the remaining 7 convincingly, then he loses yes.

But if those 7 rounds are close rounds, then he should win the fight.
I don't agree. the fighter that wins the most rounds, should win the fight. No matter how dominant specific rounds are. (unless there are knockdowns, total domination for a 10-8, or penalties)
If two of the three judges give all those 7 rounds to the other fighter, then they weren't really that "close".

I also don't have a problem with draws. I don't mind the idea of longer fights, but not for the purpose of breaking a tie.

Also not sure of more 10-8 rounds. 10-8 for total domination, 10-8 for one knockdown. 10-7 for 2 knockdowns. No 10-6 rounds. The controversy of Pac-Marquez I shouldn't have been there. Pac didn't deserve the win just because he had a completely dominant first round.
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:41 PM   #18
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Change the rules all you want.

It won't make any difference, since the ref & judges will still bought & paid for.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:14 PM   #19
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Winner of the round should be the one who scored the most.
1 point for any hit on the head.
1 point for any bodyshot.

You get 10 points with a win, 9 with a loss as it already is now.
And you lose 1 point at your first KD in that round, 0.5 point los for every following KD in that round.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:17 PM   #20
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I hate scorin even rds. I always find sumthin to choose from in a rd thats close.

IMO, It's really all about who does the most damage in the rd. If nobody lands any really hurtful lookin punches, then it's just who landed the most punches.
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:11 PM   #21
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If fighter A wins 5 rounds convincingly, but loses the remaining 7 convincingly, then he loses yes.

But if those 7 rounds are close rounds, then he should win the fight.
I disagree. You won 7 rounds, you won 7 rounds. That's it. I've never seen a fight in which 7 entire rounds were too hard for me to judge.
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