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Old 09-27-2012, 04:01 PM   #1
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Default Is this the weakest the welterweight division has ever been ???

damn....there's no one there

will everyone at 140 please grow already
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:04 PM   #2
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It is kind of blank isnt it .

I would love to see a Vernon Forrest type coming through.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:07 PM   #3
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It is kind of blank isnt it .

I would love to see a Vernon Forrest type coming through.
ya it is.... i mean, the only guys there making noise seem to be better suited for 140....like devon and maidana....after that, we have ortiz and some other cheating ass fools, but that's about it....
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:09 PM   #4
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damn....there's no one there

will everyone at 140 please grow already
Well there's Mayweather (who may well not fight at 147 again), Pacquiao then everyone else.

The lesser guys aren't too bad though- Bradley, Guerrero, Brook, Alexander, Bailey, Malignaggi, Carson Jones, Mike Jones, Berto, Ortiz, Khan is likely moving up, possibly Matthysee too, if Hatton isn't shot to shit he will be a decent addition. Vargas and Dulmore are solid prospects too.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:10 PM   #5
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Default Re: Is this the weakest the welterweight division has ever been ???

It's really bad. Compare it to the late 90s

Whitaker
Oscar
Tito
Quartey
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Mosley
Rivera
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:10 PM   #6
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Compared to even what it was 4/5 years ago it is really poor.

2007/2008
Mayweather
Cotto
Margarito
Mosley
Williams

2012

Bradley
Uhh... Brook? Ortiz? Paulie? Bailey?
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:12 PM   #7
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Default Re: Is this the weakest the welterweight division has ever been ???

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Well there's Mayweather (who may well not fight at 147 again), Pacquiao then everyone else.

The lesser guys aren't too bad though- Bradley, Guerrero, Brook, Alexander, Bailey, Malignaggi, Carson Jones, Mike Jones, Berto, Ortiz, Khan is likely moving up, possibly Matthysee too, if Hatton isn't shot to shit he will be a decent addition. Vargas and Dulmore are solid prospects too.

None of these compare to what the division looked like 5 years ago...
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:15 PM   #8
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Default Re: Is this the weakest the welterweight division has ever been ???

Jose Benavides will clean up this weightclass soon.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:21 PM   #9
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It was far worse 1-2 years ago. At least now some of the guys from 140 are moving up and looking okay. In 2011, some people still had Mosley as a top 3 welterweight

Though I did occasionally hear the argument from Duck Dodgers and some of the other awful posters from the past that it simply must be the best division in boxing because Manny and Floyd fight there
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:25 PM   #10
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Yup it stinks. Don't recall it ever being this bad.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:51 PM   #11
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Changing the subject a little.

Whats everyones best Weight division?
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:54 PM   #12
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It's ok. It just ain't got any big fights, sans the one that ain't ever gonna happen. Ortiz and Tim were supposed to be hot new additions to WW, but they both got their asses kicked. Ortiz had beaten Berto in a good fight, but Berto never been all that.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:12 PM   #13
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Changing the subject a little.

Whats everyones best Weight division?
Super bantamweight or middleweight, right now.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:15 PM   #14
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Who cares about the glory of the divisions' name.

140 is good and 154 is perhaps the best.

In the end, you've still got Mayeather, Pacquiao, Marquez, Bradley plus Zaveck, Brooks, Paulie, Ortiz... it could def be a whole lot worse. Those are 4 top 10 P4P guys in the welterweight division, so I disagree that it's weak right now.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:16 PM   #15
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154 is perhaps the best.
I disagree about this. I think it's the most fragmented but I'd be hard-pressed to call any division in which someone like Vanes Martirosyan appears on most people's top 10 lists the best in boxing.
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