Punching Strength BOXERS VS MMA

[saul_ir34]

I dont know how many of you watched that Figth Science show last night. In the show they measured the strenght of the blows the MMA fighters were throwing at this dummy.
Bas Ruten could exert 900 lbs of pressure on this dummy. After those results they said that thats as hard as a heavyweight boxer punches at.
I asked some people on here last night and someone showed me a link that said Hatton punches at 882. Hatton is no heavy weight or considered to be a one punch knockout type of guy.

Does anyone else know what actually a heavyweight boxer punches at??
That show seemed kind of biased and i refuse to believe those chumps can punch harder than a heavyweight fighter.
Imagine Klitschkos right hand...

[radianttwilight]

Uhh...you do know that Bas Rutten is a 42 year old man who has fought once since 1999, right?

It wouldn't suprise me if a heavyweight boxer punches harder than a heavyweight mixed martial artist - all other things being equal, the boxer trains to punch, and punch only. Boxers are alot more stationary than MMA fighters, too, because they don't have to worry about being kicked and taken down.

I will tell you, though, that a good high kick from a 200+lb kickboxer is harder than any punch thrown by a heavyweight boxer in history.

[saul_ir34]

Originally Posted by radianttwilight

Uhh...you do know that Bas Rutten is a 42 year old man who has fought once since 1999, right?

It wouldn't suprise me if a heavyweight boxer punches harder than a heavyweight mixed martial artist - all other things being equal, the boxer trains to punch, and punch only. Boxers are alot more stationary than MMA fighters, too, because they don't have to worry about being kicked and taken down.

I will tell you, though, that a good high kick from a 200+lb kickboxer is harder than any punch thrown by a heavyweight boxer in history.

The kicks did look like they would fucken break your ribs but the way they punched just didnt convince me that they can strike harder than a heavyweight boxer.
Actually i think Kermit Cintron could outpunch these guys.

[Larson]

Can you show me that Ricky Hatton link?

[dangerousity]

Depends on which device their using. Marciano was suppose to punch at 1000 psi. Also you can only improve power so much, if a guy is a born puncher and has trained some boxing (no doubt Bas has) then he may have reached the pinnacle of his punching power. If he was a born puncher then it would be no surprise he hits as hard as a HW boxer. The boxer will obviously have the advantage in other aspects such as accuracy, combinations etc.

[saul_ir34]

Originally Posted by Paenkhay

Can you show me that Ricky Hatton link?

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There you go

[Imperial1]

Ivan Drago is proof that no other athlete can ht harder than a boxer because "Anything he hits he destroys "!

[jecxbox]

i saw a show where an old boxing trainer hit a dummy and he recorded with 950+ lbs and he was probably more washed up than bas rutten.

2ndly boxing isn't about hitting hard, its about skills. And Wladamir Klitcko would probably do like 1400 on a loaded up right cross I wouldn't doubt it at all.

[Larson]

Originally Posted by saul_ir34

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There you go

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[saul_ir34]

Originally Posted by jecxbox

i saw a show where an old boxing trainer hit a dummy and he recorded with 950+ lbs and he was probably more washed up than bas rutten.

2ndly boxing isn't about hitting hard, its about skills. And Wladamir Klitcko would probably do like 1400 on a loaded up right cross I wouldn't doubt it at all.

I would love to see that get measured. I mean his left jab alone can hurt fighters so that right hand has to be packing some heat

[Wilhelm]

I wouldn't doubt that those guys could have similar numbers hitting some stupid stationary target, but a good boxer would be able to do it more quickly and accurately with better defense and snap and would be able to do it without tipping off that they were going to punch. There are guys who can hit bags hard without too much training, but the stuff they learn when they box for years is the finer details that you can't measure with some dumb PSI test.

[p.falk]

Originally Posted by radianttwilight

Uhh...you do know that Bas Rutten is a 42 year old man who has fought once since 1999, right?

It wouldn't suprise me if a heavyweight boxer punches harder than a heavyweight mixed martial artist - all other things being equal, the boxer trains to punch, and punch only. Boxers are alot more stationary than MMA fighters, too, because they don't have to worry about being kicked and taken down.

I will tell you, though, that a good high kick from a 200+lb kickboxer is harder than any punch thrown by a heavyweight boxer in history.

Uhhhh.... you know they were pandering to mma fans with that, right?
They are not trained to punch, and punch only. They are trained to move, they are trained to block, to slip... so no, they are not trained to punch only.
Also, it's just as likely that boxing is more difficult because of it's limited arsenal (pssst.... IT'S LIMITED BY DEFINITION OF THE SPORT!). There's not as much wiggle room to hide your inability to compete on the boxing stage. So your concern of "they don't have to worry about..... blah blah blah" is irrelevant.

I will tell you, quit sucking kickboxer dwyck to prove a point. It's not an issue of punch vs. kick. It's punch vs. punch. You sound like one of those prats that handles losing at a particular sport (let's say tennis) by replying with... "yeah... well.... did you know that baseball players swing an object that is more dense than a tennis racket?!".

[Casa]

From some random thing I remember reading a long time ago, I think Foreman had the highest PSI on his punch, which was like 1600. I think Tyson was around 1400.

[saul_ir34]

Originally Posted by Casa

From some random thing I remember reading a long time ago, I think Foreman had the highest PSI on his punch, which was like 1600. I think Tyson was around 1400.

Are you serious about Foreman???
Tahts fucken crazy!! wouldnt that kill a man??

[saul_ir34]

Originally Posted by Paenkhay

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Its not working for me either now but it says that The university of Manchester measured it and he came out at 882