K-1 2012 Final 16 - Page 4

The Spider · 10-23-2012, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kid Dynamite

Hmm I don't know if that's reliable and the way it will go down eventually. Normally the matchups are determined by a lottery system and the fighter chosing a spot among the 8 available - which is a great system.

These matchups would be nice though.

Edwards dropped a lot of weight prior to this fight and it showed. He plans on dropping even more for the finals, so who knows what he can do.

What impresses me the most about Edwards is that he's a very determined fighter who never quits, but keeps fighting back - hurt or not.
He has a mean staredown as well. Big Ben is in for an upset in the tournament.

Keep us posted mate

The Spider · 10-25-2012, 12:22 AM

A little something for the Ben Edwards fans.

This was the 2010 K1 tournament in Canberra. Which Ben won in world record time. 3 opponents in a total of only 3 minutes and 28 seconds >>>

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohRyvIpaeqw[/ame]

Kid Dynamite · 10-25-2012, 03:07 PM

Yeah he beat the record from Jerome Le Banner with that time. Ben has pretty good boxing skills, his hands are very fast and has 2 handed KO power. With these features he can upset a lot of fighters. He looked in good physical shape back in 2010 btw.

The Spider · 10-25-2012, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kid Dynamite

Yeah he beat the record from Jerome Le Banner with that time. Ben has pretty good boxing skills, his hands are very fast and has 2 handed KO power. With these features he can upset a lot of fighters. He looked in good physical shape back in 2010 btw.

With due respect to his fighting ability, Ben never has the look of an Olympic athlete. He's had 4 professional boxing bouts in Australia dating back to early 2007, and his weight is usually in the 115 to 120 kg region (250 to 265 pounds).

Ben's ability to knock opponents cold extends to the boxing ring. His record reads 3 wins (all by KO) and a draw from 4 bouts. The draw was in a fight for the Australian heavyweight title, which I think he has the ammunition to win if he decides to return to the ring.

Haggis McJackass · 10-25-2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Spider

A little something for the Ben Edwards fans.

This was the 2010 K1 tournament in Canberra. Which Ben won in world record time. 3 opponents in a total of only 3 minutes and 28 seconds >>>

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Nice vid. Awesome staredown for the final, he alpha'ed the fuck out of the other guy.

Are the matchups for the next round confirmed?

Does Cro Cop have any realistic chance to make it to the semis?

And how good a victory was his last win? I know nothing about his opponent, but the guy had a good undefeated record at least. Obviously that can be deceptive, but was the guy legit?

It's pretty much taken for granted that Cro Cop is completely and utterly shot. If he can still hold his own in a serious kickboxing tournament, what does that tell us about how much physicality he still has left? Anything?

Rob_Floyd · 10-25-2012, 06:41 PM

Blake was undefeated, but his fight with Cro Cop was only his second time fighting outside of Oklahoma, and his two most notable wins are over a very old Marvin Eastman, and a very old Dewey Cooper, neither of which were ever great kickboxers themselves. Plus, he fights in a very point based karate style, very rarely sitting on any of his strikes. Cro Cop didn't really have to fear the knockout, and won purely on being the aggressor.

No, it wasn't a particularly great win. It just showed that Blake isn't ready for the world scene, and that his style doesn't adapt very well to K1.

Haggis McJackass · 10-25-2012, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob_Floyd

Blake was undefeated, but his fight with Cro Cop was only his second time fighting outside of Oklahoma, and his two most notable wins are over a very old Marvin Eastman, and a very old Dewey Cooper, neither of which were ever great kickboxers themselves. Plus, he fights in a very point based karate style, very rarely sitting on any of his strikes. Cro Cop didn't really have to fear the knockout, and won purely on being the aggressor.

No, it wasn't a particularly great win. It just showed that Blake isn't ready for the world scene, and that his style doesn't adapt very well to K1.

So Cro Cop got somewhat of a soft draw and is likely in trouble heading into the quarters?

Good to hear that at least he was the aggressor though. Every fight of his in the UFC, he seemed to always be backing up. Hopefully for his sake he can pull one last good win out of the bag in this tournament. He has earned that, instead of leaving combat sports with an extended whimper instead of a bang.

The Spider · 10-25-2012, 07:30 PM

This is the best I can offer as far as a draw goes >>>

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As to its accuracy?

The Spider · 10-26-2012, 07:35 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...WGP2012F16.jpg

Wiki seems to have changed the previous shortcut. The one below takes you to where the other one used to >>>

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It has the quarter finals as follows >>>

1/ Ben Edwards (Aust) vs Jarrell Miller
2/ Zabit Samedov vs Hesdy Gerges
3/ Ismael Londt vs Makoto Uehara

If Edwards is successful he meets the winner of Samedov vs Gerges. With the winner of that progressing to the final.

(all according to Wiki of course)

Rob_Floyd · 10-26-2012, 08:12 PM

Now that I think about it, don't K1 usually do a draw to see who is fighting who in the final 8?

The Spider · 10-27-2012, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob_Floyd

Now that I think about it, don't K1 usually do a draw to see who is fighting who in the final 8?

They have either changed the format or Wiki have it completely wrong. I would have thought they'd copied it from somewhere though?

The Spider · 10-27-2012, 05:53 PM

The next step in the K1 tournament isn't until December 26 >>>

K-1 Final 16 Results

K-1 was in action this weekend with their most important show since the relaunch - the K-1 2012 Grand Prix Final 16. Winners of 8 Heavyweight fights now move on to the Grand Prix finals scheduled for December 26 in New York City (though there are some rumblings that the date will be pushed back to January to allow it to air on Spike).

In the main event, Mirko Cro Cop defeated Randy Blake via decision to earn his spot. Cro Cop has looked pretty good since coming back to kickboxing this year, and, crazy but true, is one of the favorites to win this year's crown. The other big favorite is Hesdy Gerges, who defeated Sergei Lascenko. Zabit Samedov also should not be ruled out, as he is a crafty veteran who has looked good lately, including in this quick win over Xavier Vigney. I'll take Ismael Londt as my dark horse pick - he didn't look fantastic in his win over Singh Jaideep, but he's still a force.

On the US side, only Jarrell Miller moved on to the finals - he'll be representing the country in New York.

Overall, it wasn't the best show, as some of the Final 16 fights were a bit conservative (which often happens). But there was a lot of fun to be had, both on the undercard, and in fights like Raul Catinas vs. Ben Edwards.

If you didn't know about the show, you're forgiven. K-1 did very little publicity, and Spike.com didn't even have stream info up for most of last week. Spike had the stream up for free yesterday, but now, it's gone. Why? Who knows. Watch Cro Cop's fight here, and, uh, good luck on the rest.

Kid Dynamite · 11-01-2012, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob_Floyd

Blake was undefeated, but his fight with Cro Cop was only his second time fighting outside of Oklahoma, and his two most notable wins are over a very old Marvin Eastman, and a very old Dewey Cooper, neither of which were ever great kickboxers themselves. Plus, he fights in a very point based karate style, very rarely sitting on any of his strikes. Cro Cop didn't really have to fear the knockout, and won purely on being the aggressor.

No, it wasn't a particularly great win. It just showed that Blake isn't ready for the world scene, and that his style doesn't adapt very well to K1.

Yes that's a good post actually. I pretty much agree. I think Blake is a very good athlete in general, but with that style he's not gonna make it.
He's too light too. Quite a difference with someone like Carter Williams.

I think that if they want some US fighters in K-1, they should make their debut in Supercombat first and if they get some experience there and eventually get the big win, they should get their chance to move to K-1.
Dropping them in K-1 right away doesn't seem to be a good idea as they are not good enough yet and that's not good for the spectators as well. Vigney got his reality check right away.

The Spider · 12-25-2012, 10:04 PM

The K-1 Grand Prix Final 8 is in New York City, December 26th, only hours away. The winner will need to win 3 bouts on the same night. Go Ben Edwards

Rob_Floyd · 12-26-2012, 12:03 AM

Are you sure that this is happening?

I know that it was supposed to, but it doesn't look like it is anymore. Not until next year, at least.

10-25-2012, 12:22 AM	#47
The Spider boogidy boogidy boogidy East Side Guru Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 9,522 vCash: 454	Re: K-1 2012 Final 16 A little something for the Ben Edwards fans. This was the 2010 K1 tournament in Canberra. Which Ben won in world record time. 3 opponents in a total of only 3 minutes and 28 seconds >>> [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohRyvIpaeqw[/ame]
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10-25-2012, 03:07 PM	#48
Kid Dynamite Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 228 vCash: 1000	Re: K-1 2012 Final 16 Yeah he beat the record from Jerome Le Banner with that time. Ben has pretty good boxing skills, his hands are very fast and has 2 handed KO power. With these features he can upset a lot of fighters. He looked in good physical shape back in 2010 btw.
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10-25-2012, 06:41 PM	#51
Rob_Floyd Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 4,979 vCash: 847	Re: K-1 2012 Final 16 Blake was undefeated, but his fight with Cro Cop was only his second time fighting outside of Oklahoma, and his two most notable wins are over a very old Marvin Eastman, and a very old Dewey Cooper, neither of which were ever great kickboxers themselves. Plus, he fights in a very point based karate style, very rarely sitting on any of his strikes. Cro Cop didn't really have to fear the knockout, and won purely on being the aggressor. No, it wasn't a particularly great win. It just showed that Blake isn't ready for the world scene, and that his style doesn't adapt very well to K1.
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10-25-2012, 07:30 PM	#53
The Spider boogidy boogidy boogidy East Side Guru Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 9,522 vCash: 454	Re: K-1 2012 Final 16 This is the best I can offer as far as a draw goes >>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] As to its accuracy?
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10-26-2012, 07:35 PM	#54
The Spider boogidy boogidy boogidy East Side Guru Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 9,522 vCash: 454	Re: K-1 2012 Final 16 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...WGP2012F16.jpg Wiki seems to have changed the previous shortcut. The one below takes you to where the other one used to >>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] It has the quarter finals as follows >>> 1/ Ben Edwards (Aust) vs Jarrell Miller 2/ Zabit Samedov vs Hesdy Gerges 3/ Ismael Londt vs Makoto Uehara If Edwards is successful he meets the winner of Samedov vs Gerges. With the winner of that progressing to the final. (all according to Wiki of course)
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10-26-2012, 08:12 PM	#55
Rob_Floyd Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 4,979 vCash: 847	Re: K-1 2012 Final 16 Now that I think about it, don't K1 usually do a draw to see who is fighting who in the final 8?
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10-27-2012, 05:53 PM	#57
The Spider boogidy boogidy boogidy East Side Guru Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 9,522 vCash: 454	Re: K-1 2012 Final 16 The next step in the K1 tournament isn't until December 26 >>> K-1 Final 16 Results K-1 was in action this weekend with their most important show since the relaunch - the K-1 2012 Grand Prix Final 16. Winners of 8 Heavyweight fights now move on to the Grand Prix finals scheduled for December 26 in New York City (though there are some rumblings that the date will be pushed back to January to allow it to air on Spike). In the main event, Mirko Cro Cop defeated Randy Blake via decision to earn his spot. Cro Cop has looked pretty good since coming back to kickboxing this year, and, crazy but true, is one of the favorites to win this year's crown. The other big favorite is Hesdy Gerges, who defeated Sergei Lascenko. Zabit Samedov also should not be ruled out, as he is a crafty veteran who has looked good lately, including in this quick win over Xavier Vigney. I'll take Ismael Londt as my dark horse pick - he didn't look fantastic in his win over Singh Jaideep, but he's still a force. On the US side, only Jarrell Miller moved on to the finals - he'll be representing the country in New York. Overall, it wasn't the best show, as some of the Final 16 fights were a bit conservative (which often happens). But there was a lot of fun to be had, both on the undercard, and in fights like Raul Catinas vs. Ben Edwards. If you didn't know about the show, you're forgiven. K-1 did very little publicity, and Spike.com didn't even have stream info up for most of last week. Spike had the stream up for free yesterday, but now, it's gone. Why? Who knows. Watch Cro Cop's fight here, and, uh, good luck on the rest.
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12-25-2012, 10:04 PM	#59
The Spider boogidy boogidy boogidy East Side Guru Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 9,522 vCash: 454	Re: K-1 2012 Final 16 The K-1 Grand Prix Final 8 is in New York City, December 26th, only hours away. The winner will need to win 3 bouts on the same night. Go Ben Edwards
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12-26-2012, 12:03 AM	#60
Rob_Floyd Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 4,979 vCash: 847	Re: K-1 2012 Final 16 Are you sure that this is happening? I know that it was supposed to, but it doesn't look like it is anymore. Not until next year, at least.
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