Why Mayweather beats Sergio Martinez

[o_money]

Originally Posted by Bogotazo

Interesting that you base your premise on the fact that Floyd would come forward on Sergio, because I think that Floyd taking the lead would actually lead to his downfall, in a sense.

You make a lot of good points but floyd knows what the greats of the past knew.....that you have to come forward against a southpaw. Because when you get close to a southpaw he stops being a southpaw.

[thawk888]

Originally Posted by PetethePrince

Oh, I see it now.

In that poor wording, their fighting style might reflect the only way how that crazy situation could go down (No homo).



I think you're downplaying activity. I know they aren't comparable, but Oscar won 4 rounds with size and activity (Yes, coupled with a good jab). Work-rate and angles (With both hands and feet) is Martinez only key to victory IMO.

True, but then again, Oscar up until that camp was being trained by the mans own father. Not that I'm trying to invalidate your point, cause it makes sense, but it's a factor that can't be ignored.

[Boxing Fanatic]

even though floyd has slowed down a bit, this match up intrigues me. serg got put on his arse and almost ko by jr. floyd can hit this man and win. serg may have his moments maybe where it could turn to castillo and serg would pound on him. but, i just think floyds incredible defense would be too much at the end. and yet serg has been hit by lesser fighters than floyd.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by o_money

You make a lot of good points but floyd knows what the greats of the past knew.....that you have to come forward against a southpaw. Because when you get close to a southpaw he stops being a southpaw.

[str1]

Good analysis OP! And like always, Floyd never loses a fantasy match up!

The thing is that Floyd can beat Pac and Martinez on fantasy matchups but won't do it where it actually counts.

[bballchump11]

Good replies fellows. I enjoyed reading them and taking them into account

[puga_ni_nana]

Originally Posted by C.J.

This is all just a pipedream . If you really believe Mayweather will ever fight Martinez I've got some beach front property in Oklahoma to sell

co-sign.

[bballchump11]

Originally Posted by puga_ni_nana

co-sign.

You have anything intelligent to contribute

[SHADOW BOX]

Originally Posted by bballchump11

posters like you are what's wrong with the general forum. Even in a thread about actual boxing and tactical strategy and breaking down stuff, you want to talk about bull shit.

what are yu talking about? How about you actually post a counter argument. The only one I saw so far (I'm still catching up on the thread), is Bogo and I gave him credit and said all the things he mentioned will trouble Floyd and come into play.

I mentioned and acknowledged things already that will trouble Floyd and will work for Sergio. It doesn't mean I think it'll be easy for either fighter, but I believe Floyd will win.

If what I'm saying it too advanced for you, then maybe you should read up some more and shut your mouth

I have tried to make neutral boxing arguments on other threads many times but the flomos always come back with shitty ass counters. Bottom line is a Flomo will not acknowledge a good post against Floyd. I really like Floyd as a boxer but I like the sport more and will speak on that. I thought you were smart but I guess you either havent noticed the retarded flomo posts or are too dumb to figure it out.

[Thatman]

Originally Posted by SHADOW BOX

I have tried to make neutral boxing arguments on other threads many times but the flomos always come back with shitty ass counters. Bottom line is a Flomo will not acknowledge a good post against Floyd. I really like Floyd as a boxer but I like the sport more and will speak on that. I thought you were smart but I guess you either havent noticed the retarded flomo posts or are too dumb to figure it out.

It is your opinion that they are "shitty ass counters."

IMO, your posts are horrible. You always resort back to "Ego this ego that" and while stating it's on both fighters, you only diss Floyd for the most part.

The numbers I post for example, is not a "shitty" response but you choose to take it that way and you always rebuttal with "45/45/10 to winner." Then you downplay fights that counter that 45/45/10 shit, with "well it's ego's."

Like it or not the joke is on you. YOUR the one with the shitty responses from what I've seen on this forum.

[Thatman]

Originally Posted by bballchump11

You have anything intelligent to contribute

He is ****ing "useless." He never posts anything that is worth anything. He talks about Floyd more than anyone on this forum.

[bobotnaman]

Originally Posted by Thatman

He is ****ing "useless." He never posts anything that is worth anything. He talks about Floyd more than anyone on this forum.

James, you talk about Pac more than anyone on this forum. you even have pactard on your user title.

[SHADOW BOX]

Originally Posted by Thatman

It is your opinion that they are "shitty ass counters."

IMO, your posts are horrible. You always resort back to "Ego this ego that" and while stating it's on both fighters, you only diss Floyd for the most part.

The numbers I post for example, is not a "shitty" response but you choose to take it that way and you always rebuttal with "45/45/10 to winner." Then you downplay fights that counter that 45/45/10 shit, with "well it's ego's."

Like it or not the joke is on you. YOUR the one with the shitty responses from what I've seen on this forum.

You proved my point exactly. The response wasnt even to you yet you responded. Why? because you are a Flomo. And when have I dissed Floyd? You take it like that because you are a flomo. I have never dissed Floyd in any way. I say things like, the fight (May and Pac) has not been made because of their egos and because all parties are at fault (on other threads that you speak of). How is that dissing Floyd?

If you think that egos have nothing to do with what you speak of (the other threads), then you are a retarded Flomo.

[Thatman]

Originally Posted by SHADOW BOX

You proved my point exactly. The response wasnt even to you yet you responded. Why? because you are a Flomo. And when have I dissed Floyd? You take it like that because you are a flomo. I have never dissed Floyd in any way. I say things like, the fight (May and Pac) has not been made because of their egos and because all parties are at fault (on other threads that you speak of). How is that dissing Floyd?

If you think that egos have nothing to do with what you speak of (the other threads), then you are a retarded Flomo.

Didn't prove anything. You posted a statement and I responded with what I thought. Posters on this forum do it all the time and none more so than pactards.

You always diss Floyd man. You don't even realize you do. That's why many of your posts are now in that "whine about mayweather" thread. You just don't post good shit, or you troll on pactard threads and they throw you up in that new one they got because your posts are so bad. Of course there ego's come into play. But Floyd has set his ego aside more than Manny has set his ego aside.

Manny didn't even try to negotiate after the first negotiations. Just ran to Clottey, where as Floyd went to 14 days and met in the middle.

[SHADOW BOX]

Originally Posted by Thatman

Didn't prove anything. You posted a statement and I responded with what I thought. Posters on this forum do it all the time and none more so than pactards.

You always diss Floyd man. You don't even realize you do. That's why many of your posts are now in that "whine about mayweather" thread. You just don't post good shit, or you troll on pactard threads and they throw you up in that new one they got because your posts are so bad. Of course there ego's come into play. But Floyd has set his ego aside more than Manny has set his ego aside.

Manny didn't even try to negotiate after the first negotiations. Just ran to Clottey, where as Floyd went to 14 days and met in the middle.

You talk as if you were there for the negotiations. There are many things that the media and us dont know. We will never know what really happended in the negotiations. But you talk like you were there and know the details. And prove one time that I trolled a Pac thread. I defend boxing. You in the other hand defend Floyd to the teeth and all your posts are biased. In your terms, in order for my posts not to be shit, I have to be a Flomo and post flomo shit.