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Old 10-08-2012, 05:55 PM   #61
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You're a weirdo why do you keep quoting yourself? To prove you were once wrong?

If so, fair play.

Anyway, negotiations have begun for me to get my hands on the 2nd Thobela fight within a week or so. Will upload it when I do

Both fights were in South Africa. Nazarov the road warrior
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:37 PM   #62
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You're a weirdo why do you keep quoting yourself? To prove you were once wrong?


Actually, no.

Like I said before I haven't seen some of Orzubek fights.

I watched some today.

I quoted myself for convenience purpose only.

So that it was easier for people who read this thread to find accurate information.

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2nd Thobela fight within a week or so. Will upload it when I do


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Both fights were in South Africa. Nazarov the road warrior
Orzubek just didn't give a shit

He crushed Gamache and L.Johnson on their own home turf.

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Old 10-09-2012, 02:29 AM   #63
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Nails.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:06 AM   #64
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Nice thread.

Nazarov is my favourite and the toughest. Tszyu the harder puncher and arguably the most accomplished of the three although the stiffest and my least favourite. Arbachakov is the flat out best all-round of the three IMO.

Arbachakov, like many other little guys 80s onwards, struggles because he didn't unify.
Nazarov was a baddass.. But Tszyu is my hero for what he did to Zab!..So I put Tszyu at the top Flea.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:41 AM   #65
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BTW Tszyu is the only one of the three that is on a the HOF and he was a first ballot inductee, and from what i have heard Arbachakov and Nazarov arent even in the ballots to be voted in, they induct a guy like Mark Johnson in the first ballot and they dont even consider Arbachakov who arguably has a better record than Johnson to be inducted in thats a ****ing joke, Watanabe,Moon,Roman and Benn are also others that arent even in the voting ballots.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:53 AM   #66
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Marcel, Zapata, Gushiken, Yuh, Jeffra; none of these are in.

I'll speak to someone and see if Arbachakov can get on next years.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:45 AM   #67
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Default Re: Rate these fighters: Tszyu, Arbachakov, Nazarov

Punching power - Nazarov, Kostya, Yuri

Speed - Yuri, Nazarov, Kostya

Footwork - Yuri, Nazarov, Kostya

Defense - Yuri, Nazarov, Kostya

Chin - Nazarov, Yuri, Kostya

Heart - Nazarov, Yuri, Kostya

Resume - Kostya, Yuri, Nazarov

H2H - Yuri, Nazarov, Kostya

Overall G'ness - Orzubek


It's hard to separate them - they're very close in many categories.

Kostya and Yuri clearly have the best resumes.

Kostya had the longest prime and was more dominant than Yuri but Phillips loss really hurts him in many ways.

Arguably H2H Yuri is the best but personally I never liked Yuri's lack of natural punching power (compared to Orzubek) and his overly emphasize on pure boxing.
He just wasn't aggressive enough in my opinion.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:07 AM   #68
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Orzubek the overall greatest?! No way.

You need to rename this and get Grigorian in here
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:29 AM   #69
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Orzubek the overall greatest?! No way.
Watch your tongue, young man.

First of all I was talking about G status.

Secondly, just ask yourself one simple question - who has the greatest mustache of the three?

Case closed.

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You need to rename this and get Grigorian in here
Grigorian is a fictional character.

Nobody ever saw Arthur fighting except Lora.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:41 AM   #70
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I saw him...against Freitas
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:33 PM   #71
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Arbachakov was never quite active enough either.Relatively low workrate for a Fly, which is a big part of why a lot of his title fights were quite close.Waited too long to let his hands go, especially the great left hook he had.

The fight against Toguchi, where he did let his hands go a lot(despite being past his peak)he looked spectacular at times.Toguchi was the kind of awkward mobile, unpredictable fighter that had given him problems before(zamudio, Cha etc) but he was dismantled.Must have really pissed Yuri off.

Grigorian was very good from 95-99\00 but he lost a lot physically early on, much like Yuri, his shoulders and hands were shot to bits by 00 and after it he was mostly a calzaghe-esque cuffing puncher .He fought with more cuteness than these three, but didn't have the same power and with his opposition being what it was most would have him last.basically a wasted career.

I do have some doubts if he was athletic enough to fight the way he did against the better fighters the division has had, a lot of the time he would slide into perfect punching range and let the opponent get off first, or go into some low semi-crouching angle with his gloves cupped under\around his chin.Not unlike a lot of the greater defensive and slip\counter fighters would when showboating or looking to set bait for countering.

Except he didn't quite have the reflexes to do it as often as he did without taking a few needless straight shots in the forehead\nose each round before getting in the counters.

He'd need to adapt a bit or be willing to take a fair amount of scuffing punches against better fighters, though he seemed to have a strong chin and was very busy and accurate.
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:38 PM   #72
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There's his fight with the immortal Marty Jakubowski

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv17MXsBVbU[/ame]

and violently ending any hopes Michael Clark had of a proper career, though this was a messy fight and near the end of his prime, injuries beginning to pile up.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uw6c_eaESc[/ame]
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:22 PM   #73
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Lora I'm not seeing anything. Are you sure that this dude is real?
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:19 PM   #74
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He's well known in Peru
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:36 PM   #75
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Both Grigorian and Nazarov get punished in my all-time standings for having shocking hair cuts.
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