Lennox Lewis' Second Biggest Victory?

[dinovelvet]

Lewis was down on all 3 scorecards and could barley stagger to his corner at the end of the last few rounds. He got a lucky cut which he opened up more with the inside of his glove. Lewis landed some clean shots over 6 rounds but nowhere near enough.

[moneypaysbills]

Prime Lewis brutalizes wither prime klitschko

As it is fat out of shape Lewis beating prime (if glass hearted Vitali) is his best win due to circumstance IMO

[madballster]

Don't agree that wrestling with Holyfield 2x is Lewis' best win. Not at all. Lewis should have brutally stopped an ex-cruiserweight, but he didn't. In fact Lewis' allowed the fight to be close, instead of being a one-sided beatdown. Let's also not forget Holyfield didn't do *ANYTHING* of significance after losing to Lewis. Unlike Vitali.

There is a good argument that Klitschko is Lewis' best win. Vitali was a young, good fighter in his prime that after losing to Lewis went on to dominate the division for a couple of years and has remained unbeaten for a good dozen fights.

[Hattons Hook]

Originally Posted by Ilesey

Vitali was preparing to face Boswell on the undercard of Lewis - Johnson.

Yeah always makes me laugh how these people think Vitali was sitting in the bath drinking a beer when he got the call to fight Lewis, he was fkin training anyway !

[Brighton bomber]

Originally Posted by Ilesey

Vitali was preparing to face Boswell on the undercard of Lewis - Johnson.

Some people like to conveniently forget that fact. Also Vitali and Lewis had already signed to fight later that year before Johnson pulled out, so clearly Vitali had his sights set on Lewis as a fight had already been agreed between both parties.

For me Vitali is Lewis best win. Vitali is clearly superior to Tua, Ruddock and Golota. I really rated Vitali at the time, for me he was always the heir apparent rather than Wlad. Shame his forced retirement due to injuries really damaged his legacy.

[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by madballster

Don't agree that wrestling with Holyfield 2x is Lewis' best win. Not at all. Lewis should have brutally stopped an ex-cruiserweight, but he didn't. In fact Lewis' allowed the fight to be close, instead of being a one-sided beatdown. Let's also not forget Holyfield didn't do *ANYTHING* of significance after losing to Lewis. Unlike Vitali.

There is a good argument that Klitschko is Lewis' best win. Vitali was a young, good fighter in his prime that after losing to Lewis went on to dominate the division for a couple of years and has remained unbeaten for a good dozen fights.

Vitali getting the better of him and Lewis had to hold most of the fight. He was down on the scorecards. He won by default. How can that be his best win?

[Skittlez]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Vitali getting the better of him and Lewis had to hold most of the fight. He was down on the scorecards. He won by default. How can that be his best win?

Go kill yourself you fucking moronic retard.

Vitali did 90% of the clinching after Round 3, are you retarded?

lewis was not prime retard. He was eating himself into a 260 pound fight night blob of a man.
Vitali was training hard for monthes.


You go from thread to thread bashing Uk Fighters. You get destroyed by Bailey and crawl into other threads like a lost little bitch puppy with her tails tucked between those glass legs and attempt to make up facts in another thread.

Prime Lewis destroys any version of Vitali.

You fucking inbred faggot.

[madballster]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Vitali getting the better of him and Lewis had to hold most of the fight. He was down on the scorecards. He won by default. How can that be his best win?

He TKO'd Vitali, I hope we don't need another discussion about that topic.

Lewis stopped Vitali who went on to quite a career after losing to Lewis and Holyfield went on to losing to a bunch of mediocre fighters and becoming a journeyman after losing to Lewis.

That's how the facts look from here and I have problems seeing how Lewis can be overly proud of wrestling around with Holyfield for a total of 24 rounds. He however bludgeoned a highly motivated, prime Klitschko in 6. Something to be proud of.

[Skittlez]

Lewis have the honor of being the only modern day heavyweight to defeat every man he ever faced. He avenged both his fluke defeats in spectacular fashion and have a great resume.
In the case of Lennox, it is not 1 or 2 wins that stands out but his amazing collective body of work that really puts him ahead of the pack. Lewis in his 15th fight fought a undefeated power puncher name Gary Mason. Gary Mason was 35-0 with 34 Knock outs. Let's think for a moment about just how special that is.

Gary Mason's 'padded record' stage consists Tyrell Biggs, James Tillis, Lorenzo Boyd, Alfonzo Ratliff, Ricky Parkey, Donnie Long, James Pritchard, Mark Wills, Everett Martin, Louis Pergaud, Hughroy Currie, Terry Armstrong, David Jaco and Jess Harding. Compare those fights to the fighters Detontay Wilder knocked out and you will see the sheer skill difference between the two.
Mason had a 99% knock out ratio heading into the Lewis fight. Lewis was a virtual youngster and he ended up knocking out the knock out artist.

Lewis went on to ko Biggs and Weaver and put up a string of very good performances before entering a 4 men elimination tournament which consisted of

Bowe-Holyfield
Lewis-Ruddock.
Razer Ruddock was one of the most feared punchers in the division and a solid favorite to beat the relatively unknown Brit. Lennox ended up destroying Ruddock in 2 rounds. What followed was one of the most despicable acts known to mankind as Riddick Big ***** Bowe decided to duck Lennox and throw his belt into the trashcan. Cheating Lewis of a possible career defining trilogy. Bowe was dominated by Lewis in the Olympics and never ever wanted to get within 200 miles of Lewis's fists ever again.
Lewis lost motivation, but still managed to come from behind and knock out Frank Bruno (who is a very solid HW and would have been champion today). He also beat Tony Tucker, who is one of the most under rated heavies of the last 3 eras, Tucker went the distance with a prime Tyson and had Tyson fighting confused for stretches.

He lost to Oliver Mccall via a debatable stoppage, regrouped and came back to dominate another underrated fighter in Tommy Morrison. Prime Ray Mercer followed. I hear some people joke about how Mercer was a split decision nail biting fight. These people don't know **** about boxing and should re watch the fight. The match was close and a prime Mercer fought his heart out, but lost steam starting from Round 5 and was eating Lewis right hands, combinations, along with long jabs to the face again and again.
Lewis-Mercer was a very competitive 7-3 affair.

Lewis went on to beat Mccall in the rematch, Lennox caused some sort of mental melt down from Mccall(some people say drugs, I say Lewis's right hand)
Lennox went on to KO the very feared Golota in one round. Golota beat the living crap out of Riddick Bowe for 2 straight fights. His low blows was disgraceful, but it don't change the fact Golota won 90% of the rounds and beat Bowe half to death.
Lewis was a under dog and knocked out Golota in 1 round.

Željko Mavrović was a undefeated iron chin super champion from Europe and Lennox beat him 9-3. At best you can say it was a 8-4 fight. Zeljko had a lot of talent, heart and chin. What happened after the Lewis fight was a shame, a damn shame. To this day, Lewis was the only guy to have beaten Mavrovic, so many others tried, they all failed. With the exception of Lennox.
Prime Shannon Briggs was knocked down numerous times and destroyed by Lennox in the fifth. Some of the most surreal shoulder roll defense was shown by Lewis in that fight. A decade later, a shot Briggs went 12 with a Prime Vitali.

Lewis dominated and embarrassed a still elite Holyfield and won 10-2 on every score card imaginable to the human race. He was cheated by sand Devil Demon Don King. He went on to beat Holyfield again, albeit not as dominant as the first time.

Michael Grant was hyped beyond belief. This ****er was the original Lucian Bute of the HW'S and he was Froched by Lennox. Grant was also 6'8 and a giant super HW with great athletic abilities. People say Golota and Grant didn't do anything after Lennox fought them, of course they didn't. Lewis broke them, they were done.

Lennox went on to fight murderous super puncher David Tua and made Tua look like some kind of fat sparring partner. I had it 12-0 Lewis in the widest most dominant performance of all times when it comes to UD'S.

If you think Wladimir dominated Haye, go watch Lewis-Tua, that is what true domination is all about. Oh btw, that version of Tua would have knocked out Haye in 4-5 Rounds tops.

Lewis avenged his defeat against Rahman by throwing quite possibly one of the most ruthless 1-2 in boxing history and went on to dominate Mike Tyson. Lewis vs Mike is like Calzaghe vs Jones.
Both Mike and Jones was shot, but Calzaghe and Lewis were past their best days as well.

Lennox retired by beating Vitali, despite being a very fat 256+ and heavily under trained. HBO repeatly mentioned how fat and how under conditioned Lewis looked.
Lewis against a Prime Vitali was a war and Lennox was coming on strong in the end. Rounds 4-6, Lennox was pouring it on and Vitali would not have survived past the 8th if the fight was not stopped.

Lennox also now have 156 million dollars, guys like Bowe and Holyfield are dead broke, fat, unhealthy and probably diseased. Tyson was broke too until Hollywood helped him out.


Lennox Lewis avenged both his defeats.
Lennox Lewis is the H2H Goat
Lennox Lewis will dominate any Era.
Lennox Lewis is a top 5 ATG Heavyweight.

Deal with it.

[Skittlez]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Vitali getting the better of him and Lewis had to hold most of the fight. He was down on the scorecards. He won by default. How can that be his best win?

Go argue in the tko6 thread. Vitali won the event by default you fucking moron.

If the fight had continued he would have gotten knocked the Hell out by Lewis.

The stoppage was actually a shit stoppage, Lewis would have knocked him the fuck out in Round 7. Look at the state of his face, Vitali was clinching the entire 6th round.

You didn't watch shit.

[Skittlez]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Lewis was down on all 3 scorecards and could barley stagger to his corner at the end of the last few rounds. He got a lucky cut which he opened up more with the inside of his glove. Lewis landed some clean shots over 6 rounds but nowhere near enough.

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[Mordechai]

LL biggest win by far was vitali klitschko.

1. Vitali
2. Holyfield
3. Tua
4. Grant
5. Golota
6. Tyson
7. Ruddock

[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by madballster

He TKO'd Vitali, I hope we don't need another discussion about that topic.

Lewis stopped Vitali who went on to quite a career after losing to Lewis and Holyfield went on to losing to a bunch of mediocre fighters and becoming a journeyman after losing to Lewis.

That's how the facts look from here and I have problems seeing how Lewis can be overly proud of wrestling around with Holyfield for a total of 24 rounds. He however bludgeoned a highly motivated, prime Klitschko in 6. Something to be proud of.

Id rank his achievements earlier in his career higher where he had untarnished decisive wins.

[Skittlez]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Id rank his achievements earlier in his career higher where he had untarnished decisive wins.

58-56 scorecard is losing the fight decisively now?

No.. a decisive lost is down 0-6 and getting knocked out by Vitali.

There was one clear round for Vitali, the 2nd... The rest was extremely close.

I watched that fight at least 10 times throughout the years.... You don't know shit about boxing, you don't know shit about Lennox's fights.

All you do is crawl into Calzaghe Lewis threads and get your azz raped.

[dinovelvet]

Originally Posted by Skittlez

Go kill yourself you fucking moronic retard.

Vitali did 90% of the clinching after Round 3, are you retarded?

lewis was not prime retard. He was eating himself into a 260 pound fight night blob of a man.
Vitali was training hard for monthes.


You go from thread to thread bashing Uk Fighters. You get destroyed by Bailey and crawl into other threads like a lost little bitch puppy with her tails tucked between those glass legs and attempt to make up facts in another thread.

Prime Lewis destroys any version of Vitali.

You fucking inbred faggot.

I gain pleasure the angrier you get. You're a sad stupid confused little child who see's boxing at the most basic level possible.