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Old 10-01-2012, 03:01 PM   #1
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Default The way Cotto turned Out after beating mosely before margarito

He looked ridiculously ****y even though it was alfonso gomez, even against guys like that who are even worse he was never that comfortable ever. Even in the beggining rounds against margarito he's never looked as sharp as that. Confidence was sky high and he was in his physical prime, anybody ever think that his carreer could have ended up way better than it was if he never fought margarito or had a better coach from the start? I still think he'd lose to floyd at that time but i'd give him 50/50 against pac if he even accepted to fight him undefeated.


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it was a boxing masterclass and i acually really enjoyed the confidence he showed in his boxing.
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Old 10-01-2012, 03:05 PM   #2
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It's hard to say whether his offensive confidence would have been a worthwhile trade-off for the versatility he's shown since training under Steward and Diaz.
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Old 10-01-2012, 03:08 PM   #3
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It's hard to say whether his offensive confidence would have been a worthwhile trade-off for the versatility he's shown since training under Steward and Diaz.

even the way he boxed, although his footwork wasnt up to par back then his handspeed looked amazing, he looked like he started to hit his peak in his physical prime and confidence wise.
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Old 10-01-2012, 03:11 PM   #4
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Who knows how far or popular Cotto would have been if he started with Diaz at about his 10th fight.
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Old 10-01-2012, 03:14 PM   #5
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he was never the same after that margo fight

never

which leads me to ask do all fighters lose that killer instinct and confidence after their first loss?
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Old 10-01-2012, 03:49 PM   #6
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he was never the same after that margo fight

never

which leads me to ask do all fighters lose that killer instinct and confidence after their first loss?
Not all of them.

It's a curious thing. Guys like Hamed and Trinidad were never the same. I think it effects the punchers more than the Boxers.
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Old 10-01-2012, 03:54 PM   #7
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I think losing the way he lost killed him,he was the bully,the one who beats you up into submission.........and someone walked through his punches with a smile on their face,bullied him and beat him into submission...Margo made him doubt his manhood
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Old 10-01-2012, 04:00 PM   #8
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i hear that
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Old 10-01-2012, 04:04 PM   #9
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he was never the same after that margo fight

never

which leads me to ask do all fighters lose that killer instinct and confidence after their first loss?
True and false

He was shot to shit when he fought PAC but he was better and un-shot when he fought Floyd .
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Old 10-01-2012, 04:07 PM   #10
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the 9 lives of miguel cotto. floyd was off the peds vs. cotto. they had cir testing for that fight
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Old 10-01-2012, 04:07 PM   #11
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The mental aspects of boxing draw me in, I think, even more than the physical gifts on display. No doubt Cotto began to think more in the ring. This has limited the amount of body work he does now, but also compelled him to diversify his attack.

I really wish we could have seen Cotto's career play out without the plaster beating. His career undoubtedly would have been different. Would that confidence have eventually led to a loss? Given Cotto's penchant for taking tests, I believe so. But at least his career would have played out in its natural course.
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Old 10-01-2012, 04:24 PM   #12
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The funniest part about that GOmez fight was that Alphonso popped so much shit lol. Saying he would easily win and all this shit. It was comedy how easily Cotto disposed of him. I like Gomez and wished him well but he was out of his depths there.
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Old 10-01-2012, 04:25 PM   #13
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I think losing the way he lost killed him,he was the bully,the one who beats you up into submission.........and someone walked through his punches with a smile on their face,bullied him and beat him into submission...Margo made him doubt his manhood
With a major advantage of course. Tony had a very unfair advantage with the plaster he was most likely using that night.
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Old 10-01-2012, 06:51 PM   #14
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The funniest part about that GOmez fight was that Alphonso popped so much shit lol. Saying he would easily win and all this shit. It was comedy how easily Cotto disposed of him. I like Gomez and wished him well but he was out of his depths there.
He said nothing of the sort, and in fact said he regarded Cotto as the most proven Welterweight champion at the time. The only smack talk he actually said was that he felt he could beat Cotto and Cotto had better have trained hard for their fight or he'd regret it. I'll also point out that while Cotto likely would have won clearly anyway due to the two having similar styles but Cotto being way more athletic, Gomez came into the fight with a still broken hand and had a severe illness in the middle of his training camp that required him to be hospitalized for a few days, so he wasn't exactly one hundred percent for the fight.

As to the original post, I think Cotto's career wouldn't have been much different. Ultimately I suspect he would still have lost to Pacquiao and Mayweather but probably given a better account of himself in both those fights.
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Old 10-01-2012, 06:55 PM   #15
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The Margo loss probably placed a doubt in Cotto's mind.

Not sure if the win at 154 exorcised it.

IMO, he would've lost stylistically to Pac because of styles.
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