If YOU were Joe Calzaghe, would you come out of retirement to fight Andre Ward? - Page 2

SugarShane_24 · 10-06-2012, 07:05 AM

I'm not Joe's biggest fan, but it's not practical to come back anymore.

Would make sense had he been out for just a year.

But he's been gone for long now, he has aged as well, and his gifts may have left him completely.

Better just tell Ward to reach 46-0 and ask "you mad bro?"

HerolGee · 10-06-2012, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mordechai

calzaghe would outclass ward in his prime. thats a fact. i'am 100 % that ward will lose.

if its a fact then why wouod you need to say its one?

You have a right to an opinion, however, no worries.

dinovelvet · 10-06-2012, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mordechai

calzaghe would outclass ward in his prime. thats a fact. i'am 100 % that ward will lose in the next two years. i would bet that dirrell beats him. his lack of power will cost him an atg career. because there will be a guy with great power and a pressure style who will catch ward.

Your opinion, not a fact. Calzaghe never outclassed anybody, he out worked them. Ward's skill and technique is leagues better than Joe's.

Ward has enough power. Enough to get Froch's respect and bust up his face. Bute is known to hit hard and Froch walked right through those shots.

HerolGee · 10-06-2012, 07:11 AM

Zaghes did outclass others, but only crap fighters. He never outclassed a good boxer.

However he did make up for lack of skill with awesome workrate, he had olympian fitness noone can deny that.

Daruf · 10-06-2012, 07:13 AM

Calzaghes resume is so incredibly thin the only thing he has going for him is retiring with a 0.
Now to risk this 0 there would have to be HUGE money to risk that legacy.

Ward would be incredibly difficult even in Joe's prime and personally i think style wise he just does not matchup that favourebly.
But the most important factor is that Ward is not THAT big of a draw, he does not generate that much money.

So this is a gigantic risk for little reward outside of a huge legacy boost, and Joe has already shown through his career that legacy is not that big of a factor for him.

rocky1 · 10-06-2012, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Your opinion, not a fact. Calzaghe never outclassed anybody, he out worked them. Ward's skill and technique is leagues better than Joe's.

Ward has enough power. Enough to get Froch's respect and bust up his face. Bute is known to hit hard and Froch walked right through those shots.

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You have absolutely no clue what your on about.

HerolGee · 10-06-2012, 07:29 AM

is that Bika?

like a boss · 10-06-2012, 07:31 AM

Why the **** should he bother? Calzaghe has had his day. Retired undefeated and has nothing left to prove.

dinovelvet · 10-06-2012, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by rocky1

[IMG]********a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0616/box_g_lacy-calzaghe01_576.jpg[/IMG]

You have absolutely no clue what your on about.

Come back to me when you can put words together. Infants communicate with pictograms.

spud1 · 10-06-2012, 07:37 AM

Yes it's a calculated risk, calzaghe beats him and ends all conversation of Andre being the greatest super middleweight ever, he loses and he is no.2 at worst.

rocky1 · 10-06-2012, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Come back to me when you can put words together. Infants communicate with pictograms.

So this is pretty much your way of admitting you have no idea what to say regarding Calzaghe's absolute schooling of the 'mini mike tyson' Jeff Lacy, so you resort to petty insults

floyd_g.o.a.t · 10-06-2012, 07:39 AM

Yes, because I wanna see Ward tap that ass.

HerolGee · 10-06-2012, 07:46 AM

oh yeah its lacy, king of shit hype haha. great photo depciting the peak of joe's shite opponents up till Kessler.

knockout artist · 10-06-2012, 07:47 AM

Of course not, Joe has nothing to prove. He dominated his era, and made the step up to LHW and became champion in that division. Joe beat Kessler and Hopkins back to back, meaning that he beat the best fighters at 168 and 175 one after the other, there's nothing more to say.

dinovelvet · 10-06-2012, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rocky1

So this is pretty much your way of admitting you have no idea what to say regarding Calzaghe's absolute schooling of the 'mini mike tyson' Jeff Lacy, so you resort to petty insults

Lacy was a hypejob and is a nobody today. I dont rate that win, neither do a lot of people.

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SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: the few, the proud, the Philippines Posts: 4,407 vCash: 75	Re: If YOU were Joe Calzaghe, would you come out of retirement to fight Andre Ward? I'm not Joe's biggest fan, but it's not practical to come back anymore. Would make sense had he been out for just a year. But he's been gone for long now, he has aged as well, and his gifts may have left him completely. Better just tell Ward to reach 46-0 and ask "you mad bro?"
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10-06-2012, 07:11 AM	#19
HerolGee Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,445 vCash: 500	Re: If YOU were Joe Calzaghe, would you come out of retirement to fight Andre Ward? Zaghes did outclass others, but only crap fighters. He never outclassed a good boxer. However he did make up for lack of skill with awesome workrate, he had olympian fitness noone can deny that.
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10-06-2012, 07:13 AM	#20
Daruf Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,289 vCash: 704	Re: If YOU were Joe Calzaghe, would you come out of retirement to fight Andre Ward? Calzaghes resume is so incredibly thin the only thing he has going for him is retiring with a 0. Now to risk this 0 there would have to be HUGE money to risk that legacy. Ward would be incredibly difficult even in Joe's prime and personally i think style wise he just does not matchup that favourebly. But the most important factor is that Ward is not THAT big of a draw, he does not generate that much money. So this is a gigantic risk for little reward outside of a huge legacy boost, and Joe has already shown through his career that legacy is not that big of a factor for him.
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10-06-2012, 07:29 AM	#22
HerolGee Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,445 vCash: 500	Re: If YOU were Joe Calzaghe, would you come out of retirement to fight Andre Ward? is that Bika?
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like a boss Cus D'Amato (1908 - 1985) ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 582 vCash: 500	Re: If YOU were Joe Calzaghe, would you come out of retirement to fight Andre Ward? Why the **** should he bother? Calzaghe has had his day. Retired undefeated and has nothing left to prove.
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spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! East Side Guru Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,152 vCash: 75	Re: If YOU were Joe Calzaghe, would you come out of retirement to fight Andre Ward? Yes it's a calculated risk, calzaghe beats him and ends all conversation of Andre being the greatest super middleweight ever, he loses and he is no.2 at worst.
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10-06-2012, 07:46 AM	#28
HerolGee Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,445 vCash: 500	Re: If YOU were Joe Calzaghe, would you come out of retirement to fight Andre Ward? oh yeah its lacy, king of shit hype haha. great photo depciting the peak of joe's shite opponents up till Kessler.
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10-06-2012, 07:47 AM	#29
knockout artist Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 3,422 vCash: 2666	Re: If YOU were Joe Calzaghe, would you come out of retirement to fight Andre Ward? Of course not, Joe has nothing to prove. He dominated his era, and made the step up to LHW and became champion in that division. Joe beat Kessler and Hopkins back to back, meaning that he beat the best fighters at 168 and 175 one after the other, there's nothing more to say.
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