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Old 10-05-2012, 12:22 PM   #1
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Default The 1950's Light-Heavyweights 'Were They The Best'

Were the Light-Heavyweights from the 1950's the best overall group.

Many of these 'well-schooled' battlers defeated many bigger Heavyweights.

Starting with Archie Moore, and moving to Harold Johnson, Willie Pastrano and Joey Maxim, the list goes on and on -
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:49 PM   #3
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I dont know if they were the best but a solid group of highly experienced,talented men with the serious talent and coming from the boxing school of hard knocks coming from guys on the smaller side of the heavyweight division, not that there were not big guys but it seems like Moore and Charles and Johnson Satterfield and even Lastarza did a lot to eliminate the bigger guys from the # 1 spot ...Walcott was 40's/50's but he is my heavyweight spoiler/puncher of all-time
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Were the Light-Heavyweights from the 1950's the best overall group.

Many of these 'well-schooled' battlers defeated many bigger Heavyweights.

Starting with Archie Moore, and moving to Harold Johnson, Willie Pastrano and Joey Maxim, the list goes on and on -

Is it any better than the 70's?
Foster
Ahumada
Kates
Finnegan
Lopez
Scott
Burnett
Quarry
Conteh
Hutchins
Parlov
Rossman
Gregory
Galindez
Cuello
Cassidy
Franklin
Johnson

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Old 10-05-2012, 01:25 PM   #5
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Is it any better than the 70's?
Foster
Ahumada
Kates
Finnegan
Lopez
Scott
Burnett
Quarry
Conteh
Hutchins
Parlov
Rossman
Gregory
Galindez
Cuello
Cassidy
Save for Foster, I think the '50s group were a better lot then the fighters mention above

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Old 10-05-2012, 02:00 PM   #6
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i would say 70's deeper, but 50's were the better
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:28 PM   #7
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Nothing against the 1970's Group, but none of them did anything in the Heavyweight
Division.

Though the 1970's had some terrific Light-Heavyweight fighters.
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Nothing against the 1970's Group, but none of them did anything in the Heavyweight
Division.

Though the 1970's had some terrific Light-Heavyweight fighters.
If your criteria for rating light heavies is how successful they were at heavyweight , this guy must rank pretty low on your list.


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I suppose it depends on whether you think two great lhvy's Moore,& Johnson and a very good one Maxim, are superior to one great ,Foster , and several very good ones Franklin, Conteh,Johnson,Lopez,Gregory,Galindez,Ahumada,Rossman,etc.

For me the 70's was a golden age for 175 pounders,as it was for the Heavies,and lets not forget Moore and Johnson's success was largely against Heavyweights that were on the small side.

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McVey,,,,,

I'm looking at the 'overall group', not just one particular Light-Heavyweight.
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McVey,,,,,

I'm looking at the 'overall group', not just one particular Light-Heavyweight.
You said they did nothing at heavyweight , so what? Monzon,Robinson & Hagler did nothing at Lhvy, how do you rate them?

If you are looking at the overall group ,[as I am,] you have Moore Johnson,Maxim . Pastrano did not make the ratings until 1960.

The 70's had
Foster, Conteh, Franklin, Gregory,Galindez,Johnson,that's 6 world champions right there.Rondon & Parlov held belts.
Kates, Hutchins , Burnett, Parlov,Rondon, Finnegan,Quarry,Fourie,Lopez.

Deeper division,imo.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:06 AM   #11
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McVey,,,,,,

Head-to-Head.......

The 1950 Team would have defeated the 1970 Team

Archie Moore and Harold Johnson would have 'cleaned house'.

Lets not forget, the early Floyd Patterson too, he would have had a 'nice' 1970 lunch.
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McVey,,,,,,

Head-to-Head.......

The 1950 Team would have defeated the 1970 Team

Archie Moore and Harold Johnson would have 'cleaned house'.

Lets not forget, the early Floyd Patterson too, he would have had a 'nice' 1970 lunch.
I agree this was a special bunch, deep resumes and victory's over the Big men and top light heavyweights as well...How many Big guys did Archie eliminate, Harold had his share and if we throw in Ezzard, who decided to make his bones with the big boys ....70's were good but they lose to these guys..Doug Jones was a terror to the 70's elite
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:12 AM   #13
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One wonders,,,,,,

If in the late-1940's they had created a 185 lb. weight division.

Not sure of what they would have called it, but man that would have been 'THE'
division through the 1950's and 1960's.

Ezzard Charles, Floyd Patterson, Bob Foster and Doug Jones - just to name a few. Of course
'Ol Man River' Archie Moore would have 'played there too'.
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:53 AM   #14
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McVey,,,,,,

Head-to-Head.......

The 1950 Team would have defeated the 1970 Team

Archie Moore and Harold Johnson would have 'cleaned house'.

Lets not forget, the early Floyd Patterson too, he would have had a 'nice' 1970 lunch.
Who did Patterson beat at LHvy?
Moore & Johnson may well have cleaned house ,[ though its possible Foster might have kod both,] but in depth I go for the 70's , just my opinion.
Keep up with the info its always interesting.
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:34 PM   #15
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McVey,,,,,,

Floyd defeated,,,,,,

Alvin Williams (3X)
Yvon Durelle (2X)
Jimmy Slade (3X)
Tommy Harrison
Joe Gannon

All very good Light-Heavyweights
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