Why is Ward allowed to be a stay-at-home fighter but not Calzaghe?

[JAB5239]

Originally Posted by Arran

grossing? why do you care what PPV makes? surely you would rather have 60,000 fans in a stadium than fighting in front of 12k at the thomas and mack

Of course. But as a fighter your going to go where you can make the most money, no?

[Cormega]

Originally Posted by Arran

...one was in mexcio another in Japan...whats your point? the top 10 wernt in the usa.

How many were in the UK?

Originally Posted by Cormega

Any proof of this alleged convo? Better yet, any proof of any money actually changing hands between Ward (or anyone linked to Ward) and Sammon?

ofcourse.here is Ward paying off Sammon.
http://www.thebigfelafel.com/wp-cont...ribe-money.jpg

[Cormega]

Originally Posted by Jabber

ofcourse.here is Ward paying off Sammon.
http://www.thebigfelafel.com/wp-cont...ribe-money.jpg

[Midwest_Chopper]

Why wont you Europeans accept your inferiority?

latinos and Americans are just better.

Only one division where a european coukd claim to be the best. Fight sports just arent for you

[JAB5239]

Originally Posted by Jabber

ofcourse.Marty Sammon,for example was judge at Ward vs Miranda.He scored 116-112 for Ward,opposed to the other 2 who scored 119-109.Andre Ward was furious after the fight and told Sammon he will be taken out of the payroll if that happen again.the next 2 fight Sammon judge for Ward were Green and Bika where he scored 120-108 in both,securing his financial future.irrefutable proof

This would be illegal and Ward would have been charged with tampering with a sporting event. The fact that he never has been leads me to believe this is a bunch of crap with no corroborating evidence. Well, is there any?

[theword]

Originally Posted by Arran

you said the biggest fights took place in the USA...yet the biggest of all time took place in Africa. The fact is no big SMW fights take place in the USA, for 20 years they have all been in the UK. Just like HW fights have been in Europe. You said Ward doesnt need to leave the USA because the big fights take place in the USA....not at SMW they dont.

And so because a lot of the big SMW fights have taken place in Europe, they can never take place anywhere else? What kind of sense is that?

Originally Posted by Midwest_Chopper

Why wont you Europeans accept your inferiority?

latinos and Americans are just better.

Only one division where a european coukd claim to be the best. Fight sports just arent for you

really?K1,MMA,Strikeforce..all dominated by europeans,mostly dutch.check out what Ovareem did to US hero Lesnar,he sent him back in WWE.when are you gonna acknowledge that all americans and latinos are good at circus?i mean look at Cena,Rey Mysterio,Chavo Guerrero..yeah,sure,great fighters

[Midwest_Chopper]

Originally Posted by Jabber

really?K1,MMA,Strikeforce..all dominated by europeans,mostly dutch.check out what Ovareem did to US hero Lesnar,he sent him back in WWE.when are you gonna acknowledge that all americans and latinos are good at circus?i mean look at Cena,Rey Mysterio,Chavo Guerrero..yeah,sure,great fighters

Ufc is dominated by Americans and Brazilians.

Originally Posted by Midwest_Chopper

Ufc is dominated by Americans and Brazilians.

American organization making money in US..what a surprise.Lots of europeans way better than the clowns in UFC but they didn't eat Mcdonalds to be idiots enough to sign whatever bullshit contract Dana White is giving them

[Arran]

Originally Posted by Cormega

How many were in the UK?

How many SMW top grossers were in the USA?

[Arran]

Originally Posted by Midwest_Chopper

Ufc is dominated by Americans and Brazilians.

no, its an american company so loads of yanks get hyped...they do indeed get dominated by the brazilians though.

[Midwest_Chopper]

Originally Posted by Arran

no, its an american company so loads of yanks get hyped...they do indeed get dominated by the brazilians though.

There are 5 American champs and 4 Brazilian champs. 0 British champions. Which makes your disgraceful 3 paper belt holders in boxing look good.

[Arran]

Originally Posted by Midwest_Chopper

There are 5 American champs and 4 Brazilian champs. 0 British champions. Which makes your disgraceful 3 paper belt holders in boxing look good.

4 american champs...shock horror when the american company fights most the fights in the USA and hypes the american fighters along the way giving them easy routes to the belt....i would do the same if it was a british company based in britain. how come the americans wernt doing so well in Pride? The japanese MMA? Oh thats right, they didnt get american promotion and home-advantage etc.

[Midwest_Chopper]

Originally Posted by Arran

4 american champs...shock horror when the american company fights most the fights in the USA and hypes the american fighters along the way giving them easy routes to the belt....i would do the same if it was a british company based in britain. how come the americans wernt doing so well in Pride? The japanese MMA? Oh thats right, they didnt get american promotion and home-advantage etc.

Jon Jones has beaten Rua, Machida and Belfort. 3 Brazilians


What Brit shod he have fought?

And Pride? You mean like Dan henderson.




And please explain your disgraceful soft toeness in boxing today?