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Old 10-09-2012, 02:53 PM   #1
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Default Is sugar Ray Leonard the greatest welterweight?

As the title suggest is he, guy fought all the way up to light heavyweight in an effort to find competition, beat all 3 other members of marvelous 4, and the way he moves and hits, his speed, his endurance, makes me wonder if any one could convincingly beat him in a best of 3 series.

I wished he did fight aaron hawk time pryor though, it probably be one of the greatest fights ever.
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Old 10-09-2012, 02:56 PM   #2
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I'd favour Robinson.

Other than that the only man I might have said is Hearns, but we all know what happened there.
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Old 10-09-2012, 03:07 PM   #3
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The quality of his wins fill the criteria, but quantity is not in his favor. Too few fights at that weight class to rate him above some of the other candidates.
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Old 10-09-2012, 03:50 PM   #4
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It isn't that slim, though it doesn't quite match the depth of other great Welters. He did wipe out nearly half the division at the time prior to winning the title against Benitez: Mayweather, Shields, Gant, Ranzany, Price.
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Old 10-09-2012, 03:57 PM   #5
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Leonard could beat Robinson.


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Old 10-09-2012, 03:59 PM   #6
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Default Re: Is sugar Ray Leonard the greatest welterweight?

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As the title suggest is he, guy fought all the way up to light heavyweight in an effort to find competition, beat all 3 other members of marvelous 4, and the way he moves and hits, his speed, his endurance, makes me wonder if any one could convincingly beat him in a best of 3 series.

I wished he did fight aaron hawk time pryor though, it probably be one of the greatest fights ever.

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Old 10-09-2012, 04:03 PM   #7
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As the title suggest is he, guy fought all the way up to light heavyweight in an effort to find competition, beat all 3 other members of marvelous 4, and the way he moves and hits, his speed, his endurance, makes me wonder if any one could convincingly beat him in a best of 3 series.

I wished he did fight aaron hawk time pryor though, it probably be one of the greatest fights ever.
Much rather see him against Curry. Pryor was way to open to come good against a larger sharp shooter like Leonard, but Curry matches Leonard for speed, eclipse him in terms of technique and perhaps in power as well. Leonard would have to rely on smarts and guts, which he had as much of as any fighter ever, in this one.
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Leonard could beat Robinson.


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But he wouldn't.




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Old 10-09-2012, 04:11 PM   #9
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I've got Leonard at #3, btw.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:13 PM   #10
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I've got Leonard at #3, btw.
Didn't you vote Gavilan No. 3 in my poll?
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Didn't you vote Gavilan No. 3 in my poll?
Maybe.

I honestly can't remember. If so, I've switched them. We'll see how long it lasts.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:34 PM   #13
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Ray would spend too much time thinking about Robinson. He'd get stung early, wait out an adjustment then either lose on points or try a Hearns/Kalule-esque throwing of the kitchen sink and find he walked into the wrong ****ing kitchen.

Robinson 11-4/10-5 type decision.
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Maybe.

I honestly can't remember. If so, I've switched them. We'll see how long it lasts.
So Kid is now #4? WTF man.

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Ray would spend too much time thinking about Robinson. He'd get stung early, wait out an adjustment then either lose on points or try a Hearns/Kalule-esque throwing of the kitchen sink and find he walked into the wrong ****ing kitchen.

Robinson 11-4/10-5 type decision.
"You don't think. It's all instinct. If you stop to think, you're gone." - Sugar Ray Robinson
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SRR would whoop SRL's ass imo.
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