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Old 05-20-2013, 10:18 AM   #1
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Default Under Ring's current policy Roy Jones would've been dismissed from its rankings . . .

Why has it taken 13 years to finally acknowledge that steroid cheats like Roy Jones Jnr are an absolute disgrace to the sport of boxing?



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The recent spate of failed drug tests has underscored an obvious and troubling problem in boxing.

Thus, THE RING Editorial Board decided it was time to make a strong statement: From now on, any fighter who tests positive for a banned substance will immediately be removed from THE RING Ratings.
That fighter would be reinstated if the testing agency reverses its decision. And he will be allowed to earn his way back into the ratings after any suspension.

Here is the new RING policy:
THE RING will remove from its ratings any rated fighter including a champion if such fighter at some point undergoes drug testing (Olympic-style or otherwise) and that fighter tests positve for a banned substance.
In the event that a fighter has undergone testing in which the fighter provides two samples ("A" and "B") and the fighter's "A" and subsequent B samples test positive for a banned substance or if his A sample tests positive and he waives his right to have the B sample tested then the fighter shall immediately be removed from the ratings.
A fighter whose A sample tested positive and is awaiting the results of his B sample will not be allowed to fight for a championship or rise in the ratings.
A fighter who is removed because of a postitive test will have the opportunity to earn his way back into the ratings after any suspension period is completed.
A fighter who is dropped also may be reinstated if the testing agency subsequently reverses its decision or a court of competent jursidiction finds that the test result was invalid
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:19 AM   #2
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Default Re: Under Ring's current policy Roy Jones would've been dismissed from its rankings .

amercans get a pass for cheating....everyone knows that
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:26 AM   #3
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Kinda ironic that it is owned by GBP and they are the ones looking shady as hell now.
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:35 AM   #4
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Why has it taken 13 years to finally acknowledge that steroid cheats like Roy Jones Jnr are an absolute disgrace to the sport of boxing?



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The recent spate of failed drug tests has underscored an obvious and troubling problem in boxing.

Thus, THE RING Editorial Board decided it was time to make a strong statement: From now on, any fighter who tests positive for a banned substance will immediately be removed from THE RING Ratings.
That fighter would be reinstated if the testing agency reverses its decision. And he will be allowed to earn his way back into the ratings after any suspension.

Here is the new RING policy:
THE RING will remove from its ratings any rated fighter including a champion if such fighter at some point undergoes drug testing (Olympic-style or otherwise) and that fighter tests positve for a banned substance.
In the event that a fighter has undergone testing in which the fighter provides two samples ("A" and "B") and the fighter's "A" and subsequent B samples test positive for a banned substance or if his A sample tests positive and he waives his right to have the B sample tested then the fighter shall immediately be removed from the ratings.
A fighter whose A sample tested positive and is awaiting the results of his B sample will not be allowed to fight for a championship or rise in the ratings.
A fighter who is removed because of a postitive test will have the opportunity to earn his way back into the ratings after any suspension period is completed.
A fighter who is dropped also may be reinstated if the testing agency subsequently reverses its decision or a court of competent jursidiction finds that the test result was invalid
He would of been removed but its not a permanent ban.

Guys currently in the Ring's rankings with failed drug tests:

Salido
Chavez Jr
Peterson

Probably is more that I have missed.
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:51 AM   #5
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Default Re: Under Ring's current policy Roy Jones would've been dismissed from its rankings .

Man you are nothing more than one of those strange UK calzaghe fans. You guys are so gay. This situation with RJJ has been covered so many times on this forum, it's been done to death -- he's an old washed up fighter, leave him alone and worry about boxing outside of Calzaghe.
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:21 AM   #6
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amercans get a pass for cheating....everyone knows that

It does seem that American based fighters seem to be the main culprits in juicing, they are likely to be the ones that have taken advantage most of the lapse testing in boxing over years.

Its interesting that most of the steroid apologists on esb hold an American passport as well.
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:25 AM   #7
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Kinda ironic that it is owned by GBP and they are the ones looking shady as hell now.
Yeah its interesting. I seem to remember Oscar not being angry in the slightest when Mosley was found out to have juiced against him, you get the feeling that so much juicing in American sport has been swept under the carpet in the past 25 years, from Carl Lewis, to Roy Jones, to Lance Armstrong.
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Yeah its interesting. I seem to remember Oscar not being angry in the slightest when Mosley was found out to have juiced against him, you get the feeling that so juicing in American sport has been swept under the carpet in the past 25 years, from Carl Lewis, to Roy Jones, to Lance Armstrong.

I think GBP is shady as hell, but I don't think it's just American athletes that are using either. Don't be so simple minded.
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:29 AM   #9
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He would of been removed but its not a permanent ban.

Guys currently in the Ring's rankings with failed drug tests:

Salido
Chavez Jr
Peterson

Probably is more that I have missed.

Seems like it was Roys first ever drug test in professional boxing when he got caught. Think he got tested in a couple of simple urine tests straight after being busted in 2000 but those tests were so easy to beat, especially when you have already been busted. Was noticeable that Roys performance levels seemed to dip from Hall onwards and the standard of Roys opponents got even worse.
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Seems like it was Roys first ever drug test in professional boxing when he got caught. Think he got tested in a couple of simple urine tests straight after being busted in 2000 but those tests were so easy to beat, especially when you have already been busted. Was noticeable that Roys performance levels seemed to dip from Hall onwards and the standard of Roys opponents got even worse.

You do realize Roy moved up to HW to defeat John Ruiz after the Hall fight and then dropped back down to LHW to defeat Antonio Tarver for the LHW title. How many fighters have accomplished that at that age?
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Man you are nothing more than one of those strange UK calzaghe fans. You guys are so gay. This situation with RJJ has been covered so many times on this forum, it's been done to death -- he's an old washed up fighter, leave him alone and worry about boxing outside of Calzaghe.

Please, no trolling in this thread, we are here to debate boxing and we are here to condemn cheats. Steroid Apologists must be put in their place. Either contribute to the debate or solely post in your fanboy threads where like-minded simpletons will pat you on the back and agree with everything you mutter.
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:38 AM   #12
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Seems like it was Roys first ever drug test in professional boxing when he got caught. Think he got tested in a couple of simple urine tests straight after being busted in 2000 but those tests were so easy to beat, especially when you have already been busted. Was noticeable that Roys performance levels seemed to dip from Hall onwards and the standard of Roys opponents got even worse.

Since you seem to be so against drug cheats, why don't I ever see you mention that Richard Hall actually tested higher then Roy Jones did after their fight? 2 times higher I believe. You constantly throw Roy under the bus, but never mention Hall tested even higher. Going by your logic, Hall should have won because he was more roided then Roy...
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I think GBP is shady as hell, but I don't think it's just American athletes that are using either. Don't be so simple minded.
Leave the insults out minion. I think its more American based fighters more than it being just American fighters. Why do you think GBP is so shady?
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:42 AM   #14
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You do realize Roy moved up to HW to defeat John Ruiz after the Hall fight and then dropped back down to LHW to defeat Antonio Tarver for the LHW title. How many fighters have accomplished that at that age?

C'mon, Ruiz was the perfect hand-picked trinket belt holder for Jones to cherry-pick and Tarver is nothing more than an overated C-class fighter in an appalling era of 175 fighters.

Tarver is also a fellow cowardly PED user - another absolute disgrace to the sport of boxing.
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Leave the insults out minion. I think its more American based fighters more than it being just American fighters. Why do you think GBP is so shady?

Since you seem to be so against drug cheats, why don't I ever see you mention that Richard Hall actually tested higher then Roy Jones did after their fight? 2 times higher I believe. You constantly throw Roy under the bus, but never mention Hall tested even higher. Going by your logic, Hall should have won because he was more roided then Roy...
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