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Old 10-09-2012, 06:42 PM   #1
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Default Re: Jack Johnson & Harry Wills assessment of Joe Louis in early 1936

Looks interesting. I'll read it in full latter.
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Default Re: Jack Johnson & Harry Wills assessment of Joe Louis in early 1936

Wow. ****ing Wow.

Did Wills see that coming with precise vision? A counter-puncher and naming Schmeling as the hardest hitter in the division to boot.

Great find.
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This is truly wonderful inside information, many ,many thanks for sharing it with us.

I've always thought that Dempsey would get to Louis early and stop him ,and Wills agrees.

Of course we are talking about the young Louis here , a talented phenomenom ,not the seasoned champion he became.
As events unfolded, Johnson's and Wills opinions were validated when Schmeling countered over Joe's low left with his right cross.
I don't know if Wills bet on Schmeling, but Johnson made a bundle.
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:06 AM   #5
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Cool read...thanks
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:00 AM   #6
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Default Re: Jack Johnson & Harry Wills assessment of Joe Louis in early 1936

No way did Baer nearly have Louis out of there though!
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:35 AM   #7
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Baer did have Joe hurt a couple times in that fight though..
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No way did Baer nearly have Louis out of there though!
Dempsey was also robbed against Tunney (I know what he's alluding too but still)
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Old 10-10-2012, 05:14 AM   #9
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Default Re: Jack Johnson & Harry Wills assessment of Joe Louis in early 1936

Great find. And I yeah, I also think Dempsey would have beaten Joe - and would have get beaten up in a rematch.
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:04 AM   #10
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Great find. And I yeah, I also think Dempsey would have beaten Joe - and would have get beaten up in a rematch.


For some unknown reason, Joe becomes Death in rematches.
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:42 AM   #11
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For some unknown reason, Joe becomes Death in rematches.
Itīs not unknown, Joe was just bad at ad******g during a fight. But between fights he is perfectly able to adjust his style to an opponent - or more Blackburn would adjust him.
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Old 10-10-2012, 11:47 AM   #12
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Thanks, cmoyle!
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:57 AM   #13
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No way did Baer nearly have Louis out of there though!
If the bell hadn't rung maybe he would have though. He knocked Louis flying with that punch.
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Wow. ****ing Wow.

Did Wills see that coming with precise vision? A counter-puncher and naming Schmeling as the hardest hitter in the division to boot.
Well, he didn't quite add it up for the correct answer.
He seemed to give Louis the edge over Schmeling.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:25 AM   #15
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Default Re: Jack Johnson & Harry Wills assessment of Joe Louis in early 1936

interesting read...some new/old information found...NY commission drew color line according to Dempsey and Wills likes Dempsey over Louis....Johnson did not like Louis but Joe was taught by old-timer Jack Blackburn and the made a masterpiece... no one is perfect but Brown Bomber was close

I dont think Dempsey feared anyone and he wanted to fight Wills but politics and the flavor of Johnson and his arrogance left a bad taste in the mouth of American politicos ...Jack praised Louis and although he still thought he would beat him was modest only saying"I would have fought my best and feared no one"
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