Irish Patsy Cline

Senya13 · 10-13-2012, 12:34 PM

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I haven't done any research on him, but maybe somebody has? Any write-ups on him (not the next-day reports)? Today I stumbled upon a quote by Damon Runyon, Jan 25, 1930:
"The cleverest boxer I ever saw wasn't Packy McFarland, but a kid called Irish Patsy Cline, of New York."

Boxed Ears · 10-13-2012, 12:45 PM

Darling Jimenez always says Gamboa isn't the most powerful he faced. Marty Robbins is.
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burt bienstock · 10-13-2012, 01:05 PM

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I haven't done any research on him, but maybe somebody has? Any write-ups on him (not the next-day reports)? Today I stumbled upon a quote by Damon Runyon, Jan 25, 1930:
"The cleverest boxer I ever saw wasn't Packy McFarland, but a kid called Irish Patsy Cline, of New York."

Irish Patsy Cline was a clever boxer who lost only one bout in his first 34 fights,so clever was he...But he just wasn't as "clever" as the LW immortal Benny Leonard who beat Cline in 1914...

Nightcrawler · 10-13-2012, 01:11 PM

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I haven't done any research on him, but maybe somebody has? Any write-ups on him (not the next-day reports)? Today I stumbled upon a quote by Damon Runyon, Jan 25, 1930:
"The cleverest boxer I ever saw wasn't Packy McFarland, but a kid called Irish Patsy Cline, of New York."

one reference i found..."a Ripley cartoon on lightweight contender "Irish Patsy" Cline entitled "New York's Latest Lightweight Contender" from November 3, 1916, shows up in the Vancouver daily over a year later "After World's Title."'

i can't find much of anything on this dude...

Nightcrawler · 10-13-2012, 01:13 PM

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a write up, prior to his fight with Leonard

Nightcrawler · 10-13-2012, 01:15 PM

and a write up of leonard's apparent domination...

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Senya13 · 10-13-2012, 01:18 PM

Outclassed Johnny Dundee in every department of ring game
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By Damon Runyon
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Senya13 · 10-13-2012, 01:22 PM

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But he just wasn't as "clever" as the LW immortal Benny Leonard who beat Cline in 1914...

Different Patsy Cline.

Nightcrawler · 10-13-2012, 01:23 PM

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Irish Patsy Cline was a clever boxer who lost only one bout in his first 34 fights,so clever was he...But he just wasn't as "clever" as the LW immortal Benny Leonard who beat Cline in 1914...

looks like the fight was in 1917 if i'm not mistaken burt

Senya13 · 10-13-2012, 01:47 PM

They fought for the first time in February 1915, and based on 6 local next-day reports, Leonard did have the better of the fight.
Anyway, that was Damon Runyon's opinion n 1930, and he started writing sports around 1906, if I'm not mistaken.

Surf-Bat · 10-13-2012, 02:10 PM

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I haven't done any research on him, but maybe somebody has? Any write-ups on him (not the next-day reports)? Today I stumbled upon a quote by Damon Runyon, Jan 25, 1930:
"The cleverest boxer I ever saw wasn't Packy McFarland, but a kid called Irish Patsy Cline, of New York."

I just made a correction on Boxrec for his 8/24/1916 bout with Leo Johnson. Have a look and tell me what you think. Sounds like a win for Cline to me, but I bumped it up to a draw rather than the win originally listed for Johnson. Until I can figure out if Jack Kincaid's opinion outweighs the other sources or not.

Senya13 · 10-13-2012, 03:23 PM

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I just made a correction on Boxrec for his 8/24/1916 bout with Leo Johnson. Have a look and tell me what you think. Sounds like a win for Cline to me, but I bumped it up to a draw rather than the win originally listed for Johnson. Until I can figure out if Jack Kincaid's opinion outweighs the other sources or not.

Brooklyn Daily Eagle voted for Cline. NY Herald had it a draw. Naturally, the colored papers, NY Age (Aug 31) and Indianapolis Freeman (Sept 2) had Johnson the victor.
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SLAKKA · 10-13-2012, 11:38 PM

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i just made a correction on boxrec for his 8/24/1916 bout with leo johnson. Have a look and tell me what you think. Sounds like a win for cline to me, but i bumped it up to a draw rather than the win originally listed for johnson. Until i can figure out if jack kincaid's opinion outweighs the other sources or not.

jack has a fanatic check em all policy
that i can tell you

Surf-Bat · 10-13-2012, 11:45 PM

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jack has a fanatic check em all policy
that i can tell you

Musta failed him this time around

. Most of the papers disagreed with him

SLAKKA · 10-13-2012, 11:48 PM

The old boy dosen't know how to email
u gotta catch him on the fly at the ny public library

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Senya13 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Russia Posts: 3,300 vCash: 1210	Re: Irish Patsy Cline Outclassed Johnny Dundee in every department of ring game [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] By Damon Runyon [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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Senya13 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Russia Posts: 3,300 vCash: 1210	Re: Irish Patsy Cline They fought for the first time in February 1915, and based on 6 local next-day reports, Leonard did have the better of the fight. Anyway, that was Damon Runyon's opinion n 1930, and he started writing sports around 1906, if I'm not mistaken.
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SLAKKA Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,692 vCash: 1000	Re: Irish Patsy Cline The old boy dosen't know how to email u gotta catch him on the fly at the ny public library
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