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View Poll Results: Who Do You Rank High On Your HW List?
Floyd Patterson 14 25.45%
Sonny Liston 41 74.55%
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:05 PM   #31
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Default Re: Who Ranks Higher: Floyd Patterson or Sonny Liston.

Sonny Liston is a top 10 ATG HW... Floyd Patterson is not.

Answer - Sonny Liston.
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:25 PM   #32
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Notable Fights

- Win over Undefeated Gold Medalist Pete Rademacher KO6



LET THE FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.

Pete Rademacher , and undefeated gold medaist sounds awsome. Tell me what was his pro record at the time of the Patterson fight?
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:26 PM   #33
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As a HW, Liston is far far... far above Patterson.
Patterson is better p4p.
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Well if you go by Boxrec's all-time P4P rankings Patterson is ranked 15th, where as Liston is ranked 61st. In their HW rankings they have Patterson at 4th, Holyfield in 10th, Lennox Lewis at 11th & Liston at 14th. Honestly I wouldn't rank Patterson that high, but I definitely have him over Charles.
Because you shouldn't take boxrec rankings to serious.
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:30 PM   #35
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Congrats, Haye can KO a blown up LHW.
Would you say the same thing if Haye would knock Ali out.
Since Ali too is a blown up lhw... (See the olympics)
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:40 PM   #36
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It was Rademacher's pro debut.
good think I voted for Sonny then
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Old 10-11-2012, 03:13 PM   #37
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Floyd was a great talent with the chin of a poet.

Liston was a better fighter & a H2H monster, a pure badass who cleaned out the division.
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Old 10-11-2012, 03:18 PM   #38
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I'm guessing you posted this in the general forum, as it will be a lot easier to overturn the opinion of a flock of sheep.?

Why not post it in the classic?
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Old 10-11-2012, 03:24 PM   #39
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IMO, Even if you give you list the fights between them, Patterson's resume, still overtakes Listons.

Patterson has Popped too many cherries. Add into that the regaining of the title, and the Gold Medal.

H2h - Liston of course.

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if he got in there with liston he wouldnt have regained shit
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Would you say the same thing if Haye would knock Ali out.
Since Ali too is a blown up lhw... (See the olympics)

haye is a lhw from the olympics (rocked solis)
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Old 10-11-2012, 03:27 PM   #41
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haye is a lhw from the olympics (rocked solis)
Haye never fought in the olympics, in the world championships he fought in the heavyweight (91kg) division.
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Old 10-11-2012, 03:32 PM   #42
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Haye never fought in the olympics, in the world championships he fought in the heavyweight (91kg) division.
thats what i meant, 91kg is cruiser then, sorry i thought he fought at lhw.
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Old 10-12-2012, 03:29 AM   #43
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Head to head sonny wins, p4p floyd is one the heavyweights greatest fighters. Floyd was still contending when he was in his late 30s whereas sonny showed up won, and kinda just fell into irreleventness after losing 2x to clay. I mean Floyd was able to last considerable longer against Ali than Sonny. All in all I still have no clue why Floyd allowed sonny to beat him so easily, like why he did not use his bicycle and run circles around liston, I'll put it down to bad coaching. Patterson had all the tools required to beat Liston and couldn't I'll believe it is because he dropped cus d'amato before the fight and was left with a useless corner who did not instruct him on how to use his skills (speed, endurance, guile, evasivness etc) to avoid sonny's hard punches
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Well if you go by Boxrec's all-time P4P rankings Patterson is ranked 15th, where as Liston is ranked 61st. In their HW rankings they have Patterson at 4th, Holyfield in 10th, Lennox Lewis at 11th & Liston at 14th. Honestly I wouldn't rank Patterson that high, but I definitely have him over Charles.

Patterson had a better overall career maybe, especially in view of his later fights with Chuvalo, Ellis, Quarry, et al. I think he could have done better around 1968 with Liston than he did earlier, but I think Liston would still have won then as well. I picked Liston in the poll.

Pound for pound I guess a better argument can be made for Patterson because he was quite light and could have fought at Cruiserweight today.
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