Who Ranks Higher: Floyd Patterson or Sonny Liston.

[hernanday]

Head to head sonny wins, p4p floyd is one the heavyweights greatest fighters. Floyd was still contending when he was in his late 30s whereas sonny showed up won, and kinda just fell into irreleventness after losing 2x to clay. I mean Floyd was able to last considerable longer against Ali than Sonny. All in all I still have no clue why Floyd allowed sonny to beat him so easily, like why he did not use his bicycle and run circles around liston, I'll put it down to bad coaching. Patterson had all the tools required to beat Liston and couldn't I'll believe it is because he dropped cus d'amato before the fight and was left with a useless corner who did not instruct him on how to use his skills (speed, endurance, guile, evasivness etc) to avoid sonny's hard punches

[FloydPatterson]

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[pmfan]

Originally Posted by rorschach51

Well if you go by Boxrec's all-time P4P rankings Patterson is ranked 15th, where as Liston is ranked 61st. In their HW rankings they have Patterson at 4th, Holyfield in 10th, Lennox Lewis at 11th & Liston at 14th. Honestly I wouldn't rank Patterson that high, but I definitely have him over Charles.

Patterson had a better overall career maybe, especially in view of his later fights with Chuvalo, Ellis, Quarry, et al. I think he could have done better around 1968 with Liston than he did earlier, but I think Liston would still have won then as well. I picked Liston in the poll.

Pound for pound I guess a better argument can be made for Patterson because he was quite light and could have fought at Cruiserweight today.

[FloydPatterson]

burrrp

[Nonito Smoak]

Super biased, one sided first post.

[FloydPatterson]

Originally Posted by Nonito Smoak

Super biased, one sided first post.

How is it biased?

[Nonito Smoak]

Originally Posted by FloydPatterson

How is it biased?

The two listed fights you choose to give additional notes on are the Liston fights to further justify defeat for Patterson and his loss to Maxim to lessen the supposed merit of that.

You choose to list the style at which Patterson fights as a merit of accomplishment.

How many times had a fighter taken the title with a KO1? List Liston as the X person to have done that.

[FloydPatterson]

Originally Posted by Nonito Smoak

The two listed fights you choose to give additional notes on are the Liston fights to further justify defeat for Patterson and his loss to Maxim to lessen the supposed merit of that.

You choose to list the style at which Patterson fights as a merit of accomplishment.

How many times had a fighter taken the title with a KO1? List Liston as the X person to have done that.

Liston had a 25 Lb advantage! He could have been on PEDS supplied by the mafia.

[H .]

Liston, and it's not close