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Old 01-30-2008, 12:55 PM   #1
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Who are the top fighters who abuse this technique the most, and why don't they have points deducted for it? Seriously, why?
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abuse it? maybe hatton and ruiz...

you know... someone that i have never seen clinch is trinidad... if i have i dont remember, maybe in the hopkins fight? but he usually just stands in front of you with his hands to his chin no matter what is going on... lol.
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:59 PM   #3
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John Ruiz and Fres Oquendo
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Old 01-30-2008, 01:03 PM   #4
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BHOP. But he abuses pretty much all the ilegal tactics, headbuts, elbows, hit and hold and more. Have not seen a point deduction yet.
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BHOP. But he abuses pretty much all the ilegal tactics, headbuts, elbows, hit and hold and more. Have not seen a point deduction yet.
He's definitely one who came to mind. I just watched the Tarver fight again the other day, and I can't figure out how he could grab Tarver so blatantly over and over each round and yet the ref didn't deduct a point. It was a joke.
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Hopkins is the best at knowing exactly how to clinch so that he doesn't get deducted.

Its a skill like any other.
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Old 01-30-2008, 01:07 PM   #7
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He's definitely one who came to mind. I just watched the Tarver fight again the other day, and I can't figure out how he could grab Tarver so blatantly over and over each round and yet the ref didn't deduct a point. It was a joke.
I am asuming you did not watch his fight with Winky. DON"T!
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Hopkins is the best at knowing exactly how to clinch so that he doesn't get deducted.

Its a skill like any other.
Its a skill called cheating. Its especially successfull when Judges and Refs love you and everything you hold dear.
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Hopkins is the best at knowing exactly how to clinch so that he doesn't get deducted.

Its a skill like any other.
o **** off,hatton does it,he's ridiculed a cheat,hopkins does it he's named a boxing magician?
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Old 01-30-2008, 01:10 PM   #10
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Hopkins is the best at knowing exactly how to clinch so that he doesn't get deducted.

Its a skill like any other.
That way Ruiz is one of the most talented boxers of all times, after all he is the best clincher without point deduction.
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Old 01-30-2008, 01:11 PM   #11
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o **** off,hatton does it,he's ridiculed a cheat,hopkins does it he's named a boxing magician?
gotta love the consistency of the average boxing fan!
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Old 01-30-2008, 01:12 PM   #12
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I'm afraid the Hopkins-Calzaghe fight is going to be closer to a square dance than a boxing match. Both of them repeatedly tie up their opponent's arms- illegally, of course- and get away with it. The fight could be a big letdown.
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Old 01-30-2008, 01:14 PM   #13
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I've come to accept clinching in boxing like traveling in pro basketball. It's against the rules, but it's overlooked.

I'd probably be the worst ref in the world because I'd deduct points left and right for clinching and DQ'ing excessive holders.

Scorecards after a 12 rounder would be 18-15.
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Old 01-30-2008, 01:18 PM   #14
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That way Ruiz is one of the most talented boxers of all times, after all he is the best clincher without point deduction.
you're argument is completely illogical and off base. Ruiz is not one of the most talented of all time because he's been knocked out in 17 seconds by Tua, lost to Roy Jones who was moving up from light heavy, lost to Valuev, lost to Chagaev, lost to James Toney, lost to a shot Holyfield, and whose best wins are a UD against Rahman and a controversial decision against Golota.

you think that the reason he is not considered one of the most talented boxers of all times is because he clinches?
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Old 01-30-2008, 01:20 PM   #15
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o **** off,hatton does it,he's ridiculed a cheat,hopkins does it he's named a boxing magician?
Hatton does it and got ktfo

+ i never called Hatton a cheat so you're not making any sense whatsoever.
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