Boxers to 'clean out' their division? - Page 4

lufcrazy · 11-03-2012, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TBooze

Yes he 'metaphorically' did, he clearly was 'The Man'. But it had by that time become almost impossible to 'literally' unify all the titles.

I suppose but I just view a belt as a title claim and anyone with a serious title claim he ha defeated.

lufcrazy · 11-03-2012, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Unforgiven

There's no such thing as cleaning out a division. There's always someone else to fight.

true plus there are different definitions ie title claimants, top 5, former titlists, hot opponents, its a very ambiguous term.

Highlighted by sonny liston really.

Nipple · 11-03-2012, 09:55 AM

Wlad?

Waynegrade · 11-03-2012, 10:03 AM

Hagler in the 80`s. Won the unified title, then kept it by beating everyone ...

lufcrazy · 11-03-2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Waynegrade

Hagler in the 80`s. Won the unified title, then kept it by beating everyone ...

herol graham would disagree.

Nipple · 11-03-2012, 12:01 PM

As would Nunn.

Waynegrade · 11-03-2012, 12:22 PM

Herol Graham ??? He couldn`t carry Marvin`s spit bucket . Nunn, wrong time. And its sinful to even mention his name alongside MMH !

lufcrazy · 11-03-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Waynegrade

Herol Graham ??? He couldn`t carry Marvin`s spit bucket . Nunn, wrong time. And its sinful to even mention his name alongside MMH !

Regardless, the point is everone seems to have missed at least one name.

The best indicator in my opion is draw up a top ten of the fighters era and see how many they defeated.

By my reckoning jack Johnson did an amazing job.

LittleRed · 11-03-2012, 01:58 PM

Jack Dempsey and Khaosai Galaxy. Impossible to name one person they missed.

Hands of Iron · 11-03-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleRed

Jack Dempsey and Khaosai Galaxy. Impossible to name one person they missed.

anj · 11-04-2012, 06:48 AM

James Toney early 90's at middeweight. Beat all the greats in a space of 2 years including Nunn, Johnson and McCallum.

Nipple · 11-04-2012, 06:59 AM

Wlad?

Toney didn't face Jackson or Eubank or Benn.

SuzieQ49 · 11-04-2012, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by lufcrazy

Ingo wouldn't fight Liston or Liston wouldn't fight Ingo?

Johansson crapped his pants at the thought of facing Liston.

Liston KO 1 Johansson

lufcrazy · 11-04-2012, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SuzieQ49

Johansson crapped his pants at the thought of facing Liston.

Liston KO 1 Johansson

Source?

Unforgiven · 11-04-2012, 10:46 AM

Herol Graham wasn't a leading contender for Hagler's title until the final year of Hagler's reign. A few guys were coming through - Graham, Barkley etc. But Hagler was preparing to fight Ray Leonard.
Hagler is about as close as it gets, but no one really cleans out a division. You could beat the top 10 over and over, they'd always be someone coming through when you finish up.

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Unforgiven Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 13,141 vCash: 1000	Re: Boxers to 'clean out' their division? Herol Graham wasn't a leading contender for Hagler's title until the final year of Hagler's reign. A few guys were coming through - Graham, Barkley etc. But Hagler was preparing to fight Ray Leonard. Hagler is about as close as it gets, but no one really cleans out a division. You could beat the top 10 over and over, they'd always be someone coming through when you finish up.
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