Pavlik is a bad fight for ward - Page 8

booradley · 10-15-2012, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by brnxhands

he was half drunk in the ring. he looked flush an sick. stop fuckin denying this. good win for bernard though

Pavlik was not "half drunk." The issue was bronchitis. That was reported on extensively by no less a figure than Thomas Hauser. Every member of team Pavlik tried to get KP to postpone the fight, but I'd advice you not to say much about that. If you do, you will get a least 100 responses that all say you are a liar, and a fool who does nothing but make excuses. This is ESB. Tighten up son!

rapscalion · 10-15-2012, 08:15 PM

If this was 2008 then you would be right. But now, this is an easy fight for Ward

WatchfortheHook · 10-15-2012, 08:28 PM

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It's a pretty easy fight for Ward, the purpose is simply to get a win over one of the few remaining recognizable names around the division to boost the profile.

mclovellin87 · 10-15-2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by booradley

Pavlik was not "half drunk." The issue was bronchitis. That was reported on extensively by no less a figure than Thomas Hauser. Every member of team Pavlik tried to get KP to postpone the fight, but I'd advice you not to say much about that. If you do, you will get a least 100 responses that all say you are a liar, and a fool who does nothing but make excuses. This is ESB. Tighten up son!

I believe that but for me once you make the decision to go ahead with the fight you lose the right to make excuses about it afterwards if things don't go your way. I don't remember Pavlik saying anything in the interview about it after the fight it was more his trainer later on and his fans.

It's like the Martinez loss too, nothing before the fight then after he gets beat it was weight drain and booze. I'm not saying this stuff didn't affect him because it probably did but if you think your fit enough to go through with the fight then no excuses.

WatchfortheHook · 10-15-2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by brnxhands

we'll see when it happens. an from the talks it is likely. im a huge fan of ward by the way. i just think for some reason pavlik will trouble him. Andre is a good dude an great fighter I just personally think kelly will give him problems.

I'm guessing by your avatar that you lost an avatar bet on the Martinez-Chavez Jr. fight. If so, maybe you should start going against what you think

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brnxhands · 10-15-2012, 08:50 PM

He was drinking all throughought that camp. stfu

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Originally Posted by booradley

Pavlik was not "half drunk." The issue was bronchitis. That was reported on extensively by no less a figure than Thomas Hauser. Every member of team Pavlik tried to get KP to postpone the fight, but I'd advice you not to say much about that. If you do, you will get a least 100 responses that all say you are a liar, and a fool who does nothing but make excuses. This is ESB. Tighten up son!

brnxhands · 10-15-2012, 08:52 PM

the fuck does martinez chavez have to do with it. Like i said i pick the under dog. even then martinez almost got fuckin crumbled in the last round.

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Originally Posted by WatchfortheHook

I'm guessing by your avatar that you lost an avatar bet on the Martinez-Chavez Jr. fight. If so, maybe you should start going against what you think

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tehmvp · 10-15-2012, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bailey

Every Ward opponents has a loss to a fighter dating back to Calzaghe or the great SMW himself.

Ward is in a weak era where he only fights leftovers and fighting Pavlik wont prove a thing for Ward

This post is full of hate

GOW7 · 10-15-2012, 11:17 PM

No sir you are wrong about Kelly so please stop. Kelly goes from alcohol to crack on this one buddy. Your foolishness may cause a human being to possibly die. Ward "decimates" Pavlik.

Quincy K · 10-15-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by booradley

Pavlik was not "half drunk." The issue was bronchitis. That was reported on extensively by no less a figure than Thomas Hauser. Every member of team Pavlik tried to get KP to postpone the fight, but I'd advice you not to say much about that. If you do, you will get a least 100 responses that all say you are a liar, and a fool who does nothing but make excuses. This is ESB. Tighten up son!

they had a video interview with him(i believe that it was hbo 24/7) at a bar where he was playing darts with his buddies before the hopkins fight. they didnt show him drinking but what the fuck is he doing in a bar before a fight?

a fight with bernard hopkins?

wtf?

this guys not right and he is a fade.

Quincy K · 10-15-2012, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mclovellin87

I believe that but for me once you make the decision to go ahead with the fight you lose the right to make excuses about it afterwards if things don't go your way. I don't remember Pavlik saying anything in the interview about it after the fight it was more his trainer later on and his fans.

It's like the Martinez loss too, nothing before the fight then after he gets beat it was weight drain and booze. I'm not saying this stuff didn't affect him because it probably did but if you think your fit enough to go through with the fight then no excuses.

he was in rehab 10 days before the fight and this has never been denied.

i bet on kp in that fight and like almost everyone, knew nothing of this. i was hoping for kp to beat his problems as i think he would bring great value but its not happening and he is on my fade list.

Saccowalace · 10-15-2012, 11:34 PM

Walk in the park for ward

He's just the only thing left at super middle with a bit of a name

Quincy K · 10-15-2012, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by shelterr

Ward will KO him. Seriously. Pavlik will just quit. No way this fight happens.

more than likely theyre cashing out on kp. theyre looking for the biggest fight that will generate the most amount of money as they dont trust him in the ring with anyone now that he is back on the sauce.

look whats going on with canelo. they dont want to risk him against anyone not named mayweather or cotto, both who are blown-up welterweights. alvarez might as well lose against them than all the other legit jm's out there that could probably beat him or make him look bad.

Big Red · 10-15-2012, 11:37 PM

Yup, Pavlik is a real bad fight anyone. When he is on top of his game he can deal out the punishment like nobody in the business.

That said Ward is a great great figter and Pavlik has to be considered the underdog.

crazy8s · 10-16-2012, 02:04 AM

I like Pavlik, but let's keep it real. He struggles against fighters that have elite skills.

Bhop was well into his old man stages and he still managed to beat him. Martinez didn't stay still long enough for Pavlik to hit him. Pavlik's claim to fame is beating Jermaine Taylor. And even though Taylor had a very good jab, he beat him the essentially the same way that Froch did.

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rapscalion Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Antarctica Posts: 582 vCash: 500	Re: Pavlik is a bad fight for ward If this was 2008 then you would be right. But now, this is an easy fight for Ward
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10-15-2012, 08:28 PM	#108
WatchfortheHook Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,015 vCash: 1551	Re: Pavlik is a bad fight for ward This thread basically confirms Andre Ward's place as a top fighter in the sport complete with fanboys and everything. This thread is similar to threads below [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] It's a pretty easy fight for Ward, the purpose is simply to get a win over one of the few remaining recognizable names around the division to boost the profile.
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GOW7 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: C-Town AZ Posts: 2,610 vCash: 500	Re: Pavlik is a bad fight for ward No sir you are wrong about Kelly so please stop. Kelly goes from alcohol to crack on this one buddy. Your foolishness may cause a human being to possibly die. Ward "decimates" Pavlik.
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Saccowalace Cab Driver ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: NYC Posts: 609 vCash: 390	Re: Pavlik is a bad fight for ward Walk in the park for ward He's just the only thing left at super middle with a bit of a name
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Big Red Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 2,011 vCash: 1036	Re: Pavlik is a bad fight for ward Yup, Pavlik is a real bad fight anyone. When he is on top of his game he can deal out the punishment like nobody in the business. That said Ward is a great great figter and Pavlik has to be considered the underdog.
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10-16-2012, 02:04 AM	#120
crazy8s Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 638 vCash: 500	Re: Pavlik is a bad fight for ward I like Pavlik, but let's keep it real. He struggles against fighters that have elite skills. Bhop was well into his old man stages and he still managed to beat him. Martinez didn't stay still long enough for Pavlik to hit him. Pavlik's claim to fame is beating Jermaine Taylor. And even though Taylor had a very good jab, he beat him the essentially the same way that Froch did. Last edited by crazy8s; 10-16-2012 at 02:18 AM.
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