I weigh 155, want to put on 25 pounds of mass....

[Shrewd Operator]

Whats the best mass gainer? Also any tips for lifting/training would be greatly appreciated..

Very fast metabolism, eat huge amounts everyday, not really working, is the solution just to eat even more?

[viru§™]

Originally Posted by Shrewd Operator

Whats the best mass gainer?

Food.

Also any tips for lifting/training would be greatly appreciated..

There are thousands of ways to train. What are your goals?

Very fast metabolism, eat huge amounts everyday, not really working, is the solution just to eat even more?

Give an example day of what you eat. I want to see what "huge amounts" of food looks like to you.

[Jdsm]

Post your macros

[Punisher73]

Originally Posted by Shrewd Operator

Whats the best mass gainer? Also any tips for lifting/training would be greatly appreciated..

Very fast metabolism, eat huge amounts everyday, not really working, is the solution just to eat even more?

I don't buy the "fast metabolism" thing. Everyone I have ever heard say this had a higher activity level than the amount of calories they were taking in. The only way to be sure of your caloric need is to keep a food journal for one week and write down EVERYTHING that you eat/drink and see how many calories you are actually taking in, and then do an exercise journal on EVERYTHING that you do.

Start eating more whole foods, none of that low fat crap. A simple old school method is drink a gallon of whole milk a day while lifting heavy weights with basic exercises. Type in "Rippetoe" and have a shot at it.

[Punisher73]

Originally Posted by Jeff

I used to have a high metabolism which meant I had to eat alot to make progress, but it was definately do-able, however I know 2 or 3 lads who have freaky metabolisms really low bf, and eat massive amounts weight gainer/food/weights the lot and dont put on a lb so I think there are a small group of people who have a ****ing tough time with it.

I'm sure there are some, but usually I see skinny guys with "fast metabolisms" that don't eat like they should and still worry about being "cut" and all the "hard gainers" who don't lift or eat like they should. Most of the time, it is just an easy excuse to avoid the hard work, and believe it or not eating properly is hard work.

[viru§™]

Originally Posted by Jeff

I used to have a high metabolism which meant I had to eat alot to make progress, but it was definately do-able, however I know 2 or 3 lads who have freaky metabolisms really low bf, and eat massive amounts weight gainer/food/weights the lot and dont put on a lb so I think there are a small group of people who have a ****ing tough time with it.

I hear this a lot, but it isn't true. I'm not saying you're lying but that people really overestimate their calorie intake. Whenever I ask somebody with a "freaky metabolism" what they eat in a day it usually turns out to be around 2000-2500 calories when they should be consuming 3000-3500 to gain mass (not using that as a blanket number for everyone, just as an example).

There's also no huge difference between everyone's metabolism. Everybody likes this excuse when they don't eat enough to gain mass but that's all it is, an excuse. If you eat xxxx amount of calories and you don't gain weight then you aren't eating enough, nothing to do with metabolism.

Consistency is also a huge factor. I know people that seem to think they'll gain weight just because they integrate 2 McDonald's meals into their diet in a week. If they consume 2 meals every single day then maybe that'll make a difference, but 1 or 2 a week isn't that huge a difference.

[Shrewd Operator]

Originally Posted by viru§™

Food.



There are thousands of ways to train. What are your goals?



Give an example day of what you eat. I want to see what "huge amounts" of food looks like to you.

Training Day:

8.30am, Weetabix or Oatmeal

11am, 3 scrambled on 2 slices of toast with glass of milk

1pm, Tuna and sweetcorn sandwiches(4 slices of bread), banana, apple.

4pm, High carbohydrate and protein meal, usually cup of rice and 2 grilled chicken breasts or pasta as another alternative to rice. If not that then potatoes, veg and a piece of meat. Glass of milk with dinner.

6pm, workout; heavy lifts, chest triceps one day, biceps and back the next day, legs twice a week. About 4 days a week.

Post-workout shake, standard mass gainer, 1250 calories per serving.

8.30pm, Pasta and beans with one chicken breast.

10.30pm, some toast and just before i go to bed have a glass of milk.


1,5 ltrs of water a day.

Do this Monday,Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday. Rest days I consume similiar amount of calories, maybe one less meal. Do 2 intense cardios a week.

Put on 4 pounds since January which isn't very good. Need help..

[Shrewd Operator]

Originally Posted by Jeff

Yeah your probably right somewhere along the line they arent eating enough or maybe they are over compensating with too much cardio. But certainly I think it must be harder for guys like that, I have friends who put on muscle opening the front door.

Ye, i've been really struggling to make gain, i sold some mass gainer and whey protein to my friend and he made a half stone gain in 5 weeks, noticeably bigger now..

[Shrewd Operator]

Originally Posted by Jeff

Lots of depending factors to consider when your gaining weight like; cardio, sleep, diet, routine etc. Tell us everything!

I've estimated i consume between 4500- 5500 calories on training days..

[Jdsm]

Originally Posted by Shrewd Operator

I've estimated i consume between 4500- 5500 calories on training days..

Well don't estimate, actually count.

[Shrewd Operator]

Originally Posted by Jdsm

Well don't estimate, actually count.

The best i can do is 5 meals at an average of 800 calories, mass gainer shake of 1250 calories, which is 5250 calories on a typical workout day..

[Shrewd Operator]

What do people thinkin of my routine then?

[DrBanzai]

Originally Posted by Shrewd Operator

What do people thinkin of my routine then?

You did not post it.

Post it in detail.


DETAIL.

[Shrewd Operator]

Originally Posted by DrBanzai

You did not post it.

Post it in detail.


DETAIL.

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[Shrewd Operator]

Originally Posted by Jeff

If your doing those numbers I dont see why you wouldnt gain wait, whats your routine? Not tricep kickbacks and chest flys or something along those lines?

Biceps and Back;

Biceps Long Bar; 26 kg bar 8 reps, 8 reps, 6 reps.

Bicep curls; 14kg's sitting on bench, 12 reps, 10 reps, 6 reps.

Bent over row, 15 reps at 30 kg, 12 reps at say 35kg and 8 reps at 38kg

Over head shoulder and back press using 30 kg bar, 2 sets of 15 reps each time, really works the back and shoulder muscles.