Boxing  

Forum Home Boxing Forum European British Classic Aussie MMA Training
Go Back   Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > Boxing Training/Amateur Boxing


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-24-2012, 07:16 AM   #106
Brand NOOBian
Journeyman
ESB Jr Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 196
vCash: 500
Default Re: Lifting weights will damage you in the Long Run...DON'T DO IT!

I've only been doing push ups once a week for the past few months, doing multiple sets/variations of 15-20 reps for a total of 100-120 total reps. Think I associated "push up day" with "chest day" in lifting and felt content doing it just once a week. Think I read in another thread that push ups/pull ups/chin ups aren't really the same as lifting weights so it's okay to do them on consecutive days without "rest days". This true?
Brand NOOBian is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 10-24-2012, 08:12 AM   #107
ROACH
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,570
vCash: 500
Default Re: Lifting weights will damage you in the Long Run...DON'T DO IT!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brand NOOBian View Post
I've only been doing push ups once a week for the past few months, doing multiple sets/variations of 15-20 reps for a total of 100-120 total reps. Think I associated "push up day" with "chest day" in lifting and felt content doing it just once a week. Think I read in another thread that push ups/pull ups/chin ups aren't really the same as lifting weights so it's okay to do them on consecutive days without "rest days". This true?
Yes, but ideally, you should do bodyweight excercises like you do weights.

Once a week is fine, but you should probably also find a day to do handstand push ups as well.

And when you do push ups don't think of it as an endurance excercise. Do them slowly, and you don't need that many sets.

And if they become too easy, find ways to make them more difficult.
ROACH is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 08:28 AM   #108
Jdsm
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: North East, England.
Posts: 1,093
vCash: 1947
Default Re: Lifting weights will damage you in the Long Run...DON'T DO IT!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ROACH View Post
Yes, but ideally, you should do bodyweight excercises like you do weights.

Once a week is fine, but you should probably also find a day to do handstand push ups as well.

And when you do push ups don't think of it as an endurance excercise. Do them slowly, and you don't need that many sets.

And if they become too easy, find ways to make them more difficult.
Like some sort of resistance training that uses the same movement pattern?
Jdsm is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 09:24 AM   #109
noobboxer_88
Journeyman
ESB Jr Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Fort Dodge, IA USA
Posts: 105
vCash: 500
Default Re: Lifting weights will damage you in the Long Run...DON'T DO IT!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ROACH View Post
Yes, but ideally, you should do bodyweight excercises like you do weights.

Once a week is fine, but you should probably also find a day to do handstand push ups as well.

And when you do push ups don't think of it as an endurance excercise. Do them slowly, and you don't need that many sets.

And if they become too easy, find ways to make them more difficult.
I disagree. A microtear is a microtear. Your body still needs at least 24 hours to recover from any serious exercise.
noobboxer_88 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 09:44 AM   #110
viru§™
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,162
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Lifting weights will damage you in the Long Run...DON'T DO IT!

Quote:
Originally Posted by noobboxer_88 View Post
I disagree. A microtear is a microtear. Your body still needs at least 24 hours to recover from any serious exercise.
Define "serious exercise".
viru§™ is online now  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 09:57 AM   #111
pecho26
ESB Lurker
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 1,124
vCash: 515
Default Re: Lifting weights will damage you in the Long Run...DON'T DO IT!

Quote:
Originally Posted by viru§™ View Post
Define "serious exercise".
Serious exercise-when you are working out u are constantly serious,and do not smile whatsoever.
pecho26 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 10:04 AM   #112
ROACH
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,570
vCash: 500
Default Re: Lifting weights will damage you in the Long Run...DON'T DO IT!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdsm View Post
Like some sort of resistance training that uses the same movement pattern?
Weights tend to use unnatural movement pattern's; however, I will say that dumbbells are probably much better for you than barbells. Dumbbells allow more flexibility.

Regardless, I don't think loading the spine with 400 lbs 2 or 3 times a week is doing much benefit to your joints in the long run.
ROACH is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 10:14 AM   #113
dealt_with
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 3,187
vCash: 500
Default Re: Lifting weights will damage you in the Long Run...DON'T DO IT!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ROACH View Post
Weights tend to use unnatural movement pattern's; however, I will say that dumbbells are probably much better for you than barbells. Dumbbells allow more flexibility.

Regardless, I don't think loading the spine with 400 lbs 2 or 3 times a week is doing much benefit to your joints in the long run.
The **** are you talking about when you say joints? Are you saying that weights are going to wear down cartilage? Weights stiffen the muscle and connective tissue around a joint so they prevent injury, things like running that involve impact and shearing forces cause injury to cartilage. Weights compress, that's not dangerous unless shearing forces are involved by using poor technique.
Also the **** do you mean by unnatural movement pattern?
dealt_with is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 10:40 AM   #114
ROACH
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,570
vCash: 500
Default Re: Lifting weights will damage you in the Long Run...DON'T DO IT!

Quote:
Originally Posted by dealt_with View Post
The **** are you talking about when you say joints? Are you saying that weights are going to wear down cartilage? Weights stiffen the muscle and connective tissue around a joint so they prevent injury, things like running that involve impact and shearing forces cause injury to cartilage. Weights compress, that's not dangerous unless shearing forces are involved by using poor technique.
Also the **** do you mean by unnatural movement pattern?
Like the barbell benchpress for instance. It is notorius for giving athletes shoulder injuries.

Or any type of barbell shoulder press for that matter. The elbows are flared out which is unnatural.

To be honest, if I were to lift weights, I would only consider a kettleball at this point.
ROACH is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 10:52 AM   #115
noobboxer_88
Journeyman
ESB Jr Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Fort Dodge, IA USA
Posts: 105
vCash: 500
Default Re: Lifting weights will damage you in the Long Run...DON'T DO IT!

Quote:
Originally Posted by viru§™ View Post
Define "serious exercise".
A significant workout
noobboxer_88 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 11:07 AM   #116
withoutwire
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,257
vCash: 568
Default Re: Lifting weights will damage you in the Long Run...DON'T DO IT!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ROACH View Post
Like the barbell benchpress for instance. It is notorius for giving athletes shoulder injuries.

Or any type of barbell shoulder press for that matter. The elbows are flared out which is unnatural.

To be honest, if I were to lift weights, I would only consider a kettleball at this point.
I've been lifting weights on and off for 6 years and have never injured myself. If use proper form it won't happen. Obviously its different if you're a powerlifter etc.

Besides everything we do in life comes with a small risk in one way or another. You could just as easily pull a muscle doing plymoterics.
withoutwire is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 11:28 AM   #117
cambay411
newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 48
vCash: 500
Default Re: Lifting weights will damage you in the Long Run...DON'T DO IT!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ROACH View Post
Like the barbell benchpress for instance. It is notorius for giving athletes shoulder injuries.

Or any type of barbell shoulder press for that matter. The elbows are flared out which is unnatural.

To be honest, if I were to lift weights, I would only consider a kettleball at this point.



Shoulder injuries when doing bench press once again comes down to bad form or lack of knowledge. When loading more and more heavy wieght on bench one strengthens the chest and front shoulders. Many times the person will ingnore the upper back and rear shoulder muscles and these muscles will give over time when the person ads heavier and heavier wieght the his bench causing injury.
cambay411 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 11:30 AM   #118
cambay411
newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 48
vCash: 500
Default Re: Lifting weights will damage you in the Long Run...DON'T DO IT!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ROACH View Post
Calesthenics does the opposite. It builds up your joints. So knowing this, why lift weights?



Why not do calesthenics and lift wieghts? Calesthenics cant do what wieghts do just like weights cant do what calesthenics do. Two different types of exercises two different types of results.
cambay411 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 12:08 PM   #119
pecho26
ESB Lurker
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 1,124
vCash: 515
Default Re: Lifting weights will damage you in the Long Run...DON'T DO IT!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ROACH View Post
Like the barbell benchpress for instance. It is notorius for giving athletes shoulder injuries.

Or any type of barbell shoulder press for that matter. The elbows are flared out which is unnatural.

To be honest, if I were to lift weights, I would only consider a kettleball at this point.
Find me articles where there has been serious studies how weights injure people.Bullshit.
pecho26 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 12:24 PM   #120
noobboxer_88
Journeyman
ESB Jr Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Fort Dodge, IA USA
Posts: 105
vCash: 500
Default Re: Lifting weights will damage you in the Long Run...DON'T DO IT!

Quote:
Originally Posted by pecho26 View Post
Find me articles where there has been serious studies how weights injure people.Bullshit.
It ALL goes to techniques weight frequency diet etc
noobboxer_88 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Reply

Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > Boxing Training/Amateur Boxing

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:24 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Boxing News 24 Forum 2013