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Old 10-24-2012, 12:54 PM   #121
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It ALL goes to techniques weight frequency diet etc
Dude everything works on that principle.You are like a parrot.
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:58 PM   #122
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Dude everything works on that principle.You are like a parrot.
Exactly. So to say its bullshit is bull shit and to say he has no foundation for his statement is bullshit. Works both ways
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:46 PM   #123
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Exactly. So to say its bullshit is bull shit and to say he has no foundation for his statement is bullshit. Works both ways
What he is implying IS bullshit. Lifting weights doesn't hurt you unless you do something wrong. The only way actual weights can hurt you is if they fall on you. It always comes down to the individual's errors.
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Old 10-24-2012, 02:03 PM   #124
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I've been lifting weights for around 7 years or something now and there is only one injury that springs to mind, which was a complete fluke. I have been injured running, walking, boxing, playing football etc a hell of a lot more times than from weights.
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Old 10-24-2012, 02:16 PM   #125
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Exactly. So to say its bullshit is bull shit and to say he has no foundation for his statement is bullshit. Works both ways

He has no foundation for his claims and neither do you.Someone has filled yours and his head with stupid shit about weights.
Only thing i have to say to both of you is educate yourself.
I have been working with weights for 10+ years now and my injuries come from playing basketball and soccer.I have never injured myself while lifting weights.It only improved my health.
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Old 10-24-2012, 02:35 PM   #126
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He has no foundation for his claims and neither do you.Someone has filled yours and his head with stupid shit about weights.
Only thing i have to say to both of you is educate yourself.
I have been working with weights for 10+ years now and my injuries come from playing basketball and soccer.I have never injured myself while lifting weights.It only improved my health.


All my worst injuries have come from soccer. Strained ligaments in knee+ankle. Never been injured lifting or boxing, excepting blaak eyes which are in no way debilitating.
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Old 10-24-2012, 02:38 PM   #127
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He has no foundation for his claims and neither do you.Someone has filled yours and his head with stupid shit about weights.
Only thing i have to say to both of you is educate yourself.
I have been working with weights for 10+ years now and my injuries come from playing basketball and soccer.I have never injured myself while lifting weights.It only improved my health.
What are you talking about? Im saying that both your statements are half truths

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Old 10-24-2012, 02:53 PM   #128
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I've been lifting weights for around 7 years or something now and there is only one injury that springs to mind, which was a complete fluke. I have been injured running, walking, boxing, playing football etc a hell of a lot more times than from weights.
Do you think there is a Cross over effect. I ask, because of the Chats I have with Sports Doctors. They cant make there minds up one way or the other, interesting topic.
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Old 10-27-2012, 05:42 PM   #129
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Do Pistol squats. Do one armed pushups. Drop the ****in barbells.

Do it.

You will thank me later in life. Hopefully all these other idiots will stop listening to those dumbass sites that tell them lift ridiculously heavy weight too.

I hope they don't need hip replacements later in life or knee replacements.

I hope I don't need one either.
Roach are you being serious? I'm about to start pushing hard this season...trying to bulk up a bit...
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Old 10-27-2012, 05:46 PM   #130
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Roach are you being serious? I'm about to start pushing hard this season...trying to bulk up a bit...
I think so. I mean it's hard to find sources, but a lot of people end up getting hip replacements and all that.

Take a look at advanced calesthenics.

Take a look at Hannibal is King. Dude is built better than anybody using weights.

Yes, it does have to do with genetics, but that doesn't mean you can't reach YOUR genetic potential with advanced calesthenics.

If it was me, I'd say go with calesthenics and pylometrics.

You'll gain size, but you'll have true, tendon strength and healthy joints. You'll look better too.

Do some youtube reserach. They got some guy that makes videos who was a big time weight lifter that then switched to calesthenics and looks way better.
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I think so. I mean it's hard to find sources, but a lot of people end up getting hip replacements and all that.

Take a look at advanced calesthenics.

Take a look at Hannibal is King. Dude is built better than anybody using weights.

Yes, it does have to do with genetics, but that doesn't mean you can't reach YOUR genetic potential with advanced calesthenics.

If it was me, I'd say go with calesthenics and pylometrics.

You'll gain size, but you'll have true, tendon strength and healthy joints. You'll look better too.

Do some youtube reserach. They got some guy that makes videos who was a big time weight lifter that then switched to calesthenics and looks way better.
Ladies and gentlemen, we finally have a new Ylem to laugh at.

Are you really that retarded you don't understand that a muscle can just grow or shrink? It makes no difference if you use weights or bodyweight, it doesn't affect how the muscle looks. And you cannot reach your full genetic potential, muscle mass wise or strength wise, without weights.

You're so ignorant on the subject it's embarrassing.

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Old 10-27-2012, 06:03 PM   #132
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LOL @ Reaching genetic potential without weights.
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Old 10-27-2012, 06:12 PM   #133
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I think so. I mean it's hard to find sources, but a lot of people end up getting hip replacements and all that.

Take a look at advanced calesthenics.

Take a look at Hannibal is King. Dude is built better than anybody using weights.

Yes, it does have to do with genetics, but that doesn't mean you can't reach YOUR genetic potential with advanced calesthenics.

If it was me, I'd say go with calesthenics and pylometrics.

You'll gain size, but you'll have true, tendon strength and healthy joints. You'll look better too.

Do some youtube reserach. They got some guy that makes videos who was a big time weight lifter that then switched to calesthenics and looks way better.
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Old 10-27-2012, 06:43 PM   #134
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LOL @ Reaching genetic potential without weights.
I know for a fact you can't do a one armed pull up or one armed handstand pushup, so you still got ways to go.

Like I said, I lifted heavy ass weights for a long time, but for fighting and everyday life, I feel advanced calesthenics are better for you.

You also look better because you don't got all that puffy, fake ass muscle.
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Old 10-27-2012, 07:29 PM   #135
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I know for a fact you can't do a one armed pull up or one armed handstand pushup, so you still got ways to go.
How could you possibly know this for a fact? Why even bring these up, being able to do either proves nothing...

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Like I said, I lifted heavy ass weights for a long time, but for fighting and everyday life, I feel advanced calesthenics are better for you.
That's known as an opinion. You have your right to give your opinion, but saying weights are bad for you is plain wrong.

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You also look better because you don't got all that puffy, fake ass muscle.
Please explain, from a scientific standpoint, how the body knows the difference between doing bodyweight workouts and weighted.

I'm guessing you're talking about myofibrillar hypertrophy compared to sarcoplasmic, though I'm fairly sure you have no clue what I'm referring to.
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