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Old 10-20-2012, 07:13 PM   #31
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I don't credit the broken nose with causing Kell's completely porous defence and sloppy tactics against Jones. It hurt him, but he was tiring regardless of the injury.
I completely disagree mate...Im far from a Brook fan, way off indeed, but a broken nose in a fight is completely and absolutely debilitating and will make you gas like a bitch. He does have defensive flaws which we have discussed on here on many occasions. We all know that the first time he gets in with a class act they will take advantage of his pulling away with his chin up in the air routine but I don't think that he gasses as a matter of course.
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:38 PM   #32
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No we didn't learn nothing that we didn't already know except maybe he looks alot sharper than he has in his previous fights. He did what he had to do and stopped a 'dangerous' fighter. Now his test will come with the winner of Bailey/Alexander
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Old 10-20-2012, 10:36 PM   #33
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I called it inside 4, woopedy do, but I don't think I know anything now, that I didn't know before the fight. Kell is very accurate and has great technique when throwing a punch, and the jab he stopped Saldivia was well timed as Saldivia came in low.

For us to well and truly learn something tonight, in all honesty, we needed to see Kell pushed again to see the "improvement", Kell was bang on first half of fight against Carson Jones. The later part of the fight was put down to poor prep before the fight. With the fight not going into the mid to late rounds tonight, did we really learn anything new?

Fair play to Kell, hope he does win the IBF, but then after that, I'd like him to defend it against top opposition, not crappy mandatorys like Carl Froch "Yusuf Mack". Get the Amir Khan fight on, defend the belt, then take it to the top
I personally think he will fall short when he goes for those top 4 and could struggle against Devon Alexander well before even thinking about those top 4. If Bailey somehow beats Devon tonight, then I think he walks that fight against Bailey, but Alexander, I just don't know. Tough fight for me. (and I expect Alexander to wipe the floor with Bailey tonight)

Wherever the IBF fight is, here or there, I think against Alexander, Brook has trouble.

But we'll see.

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JUST **** OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!! he looks shit against jones, he beats saldivia whos a gloriefied journeyman, if he beats alexander what?? he gets a lucky shot?, he beats a guy whos lost 3 of his last 4, he beats bradley what?? he lost to pacquaio, **** me when does it end, kell looked fookin sharp tneet end ov, he'll be worldy champ within 2 fights no problem get over it
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Old 10-21-2012, 09:33 AM   #34
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Anglo...Give me a definitive link you **** smoking nob.
How about a definitive, f*ck of.

You know I'm right, and so does everybody else on here, your bum buddy has spoke nuff times about cutting corners before the Carson Jones fight, it was spoke about millions of times last night, before, during and after the fight Stevie Wonder, or are you deaf and dumb as well?

Oh, "but my baby broke his nose".....that'll explain everything.

Awwwwww diddums.

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JUST **** OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!! he looks shit against jones, he beats saldivia whos a gloriefied journeyman, if he beats alexander what?? he gets a lucky shot?, he beats a guy whos lost 3 of his last 4, he beats bradley what?? he lost to pacquaio, **** me when does it end, kell looked fookin sharp tneet end ov, he'll be worldy champ within 2 fights no problem get over it


Kell won't just be humbled, so will his deluded fans sooner or later.

Why don't you just go over, knock his door, and suck his ****?

99.9% of people on ESB =
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Old 10-21-2012, 09:37 AM   #35
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No, Saldivia was never going to test Brook.

I'd of liked to see Kell rematch Jones in all honesty.
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Old 10-21-2012, 10:01 AM   #36
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Fights I wanna see that will really show what Kell is all about are:

Devon Alexander (I think he looses)
Amir Khan (I think he looses)
Danny Garcia (who I think he makes mince meat of, easy work for Kell)
Marquez (Brilliant chess fight IMO, Kell wins though)
Bradley (I think Kell looses)
Pacquiao (50/50 toss up)

If he really is all that, he will win at least the first 4 of those.

I hope he does. But I'm a realist. For me there is a huge possibility he stumbles at the next hurdle if the Alexander fight is on, which it should be. I don't think thats as easy a fight as some people are making out, Bunce and Lillis were on the money last night. I said much the same before, and I'll echo their words from last night.

If Kell somehow beats Alexander, you will learn an awful lot.
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Old 10-22-2012, 05:00 AM   #37
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Learned that a well prepared Brook is capable of taking out a no chin Argentine with a jab
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:35 AM   #38
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Saldivia has been KO'd before by a journeyman with a 30% ko ratio & not beaten anyone.
Who is this journeyman??
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:21 AM   #39
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No I don't think we did.

Saldivia proved against Ouali that he has zero punch resistance so as soon as Brook landed anything meaningful the fight was litterally gonna be over.

Jones took what Brook had then took him into the trenches
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:36 AM   #40
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We learned nothing other than what we already knew. He's a good technician and he did seem to be in better shape than the Jones fight.
The Sky team were in raptures over him which is way over the top,I think you could have blown on that opponent and put him away.
Why does Sky assume we're all imbeciles and try to get us to buy into all the hype?
I'll reserve judgement until he fights a top rated fighter but i do have a feeling he's going to come up short.
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:42 AM   #41
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Fights I wanna see that will really show what Kell is all about are:

Devon Alexander (I think he looses)
Amir Khan (I think he looses)
Danny Garcia (who I think he makes mince meat of, easy work for Kell)
Marquez (Brilliant chess fight IMO, Kell wins though)
Bradley (I think Kell looses)
Pacquiao (50/50 toss up)

If he really is all that, he will win at least the first 4 of those.

I hope he does. But I'm a realist. For me there is a huge possibility he stumbles at the next hurdle if the Alexander fight is on, which it should be. I don't think thats as easy a fight as some people are making out, Bunce and Lillis were on the money last night. I said much the same before, and I'll echo their words from last night.

If Kell somehow beats Alexander, you will learn an awful lot.



What's Kell loosening up for?
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