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Old 10-21-2012, 05:16 PM   #1
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Default Did JOSSEITO LOPEZ get too much credit for Victor Ortiz """win"""

Because he was losing on the score cards and Ortiz quit due to a broken jaw. Ortiz could have possibly stopped him in the later rounds.

That in turn poses the question, did Alvarez get too much credit for Lopez win, and I think he did.
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Old 10-21-2012, 05:19 PM   #2
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Lopez was moving up in weight. He fought a boxer who was much bigger and broke his jaw in two places. The guy gets huge credit.
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Old 10-21-2012, 05:23 PM   #3
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Lopez was supposed to be "an opponent" for Ortiz on the road to Canelo. Instead, he fought tooth and nail with a bigger opponent, in a dead even fight(official cards notwithstanding) and broke his jaw, forcing his withdrawal. Hell of a win for a guy deemed a journeyman.
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Old 10-21-2012, 05:25 PM   #4
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No, great win, you act like breaking somebody's jaw is some sort of technicality. Reminds me of Hatton saying his KO loss to Pac doesn't hold much weight its not like he beat me over twelve rounds
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Old 10-21-2012, 05:31 PM   #5
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Default Re: Did JOSSEITO LOPEZ get too much credit for Victor Ortiz """win"""

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Because he was losing on the score cards and Ortiz quit due to a broken jaw. Ortiz could have possibly stopped him in the later rounds.

That in turn poses the question, did Alvarez get too much credit for Lopez win, and I think he did.

Jaw didn't break itself, and in that case, scorecards are moot. So, to answer the first question, no. And last I looked, not too many are touting Alvarez win over Lopez as anything great. So no to that as well.
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Old 10-21-2012, 05:38 PM   #6
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**** that. I dont think he got enough credit. He took the fight on kind of short notice, moved up in weight vs a bigger stronger opponent, and held his own en route to that TKO. I'm a Ortiz fan, but gota give Lopez his credit for that fight.
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Old 10-21-2012, 05:39 PM   #7
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Lopez was supposed to be "an opponent" for Ortiz on the road to Canelo. Instead, he fought tooth and nail with a bigger opponent, in a dead even fight(official cards notwithstanding) and broke his jaw, forcing his withdrawal. Hell of a win for a guy deemed a journeyman.
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Old 10-21-2012, 05:42 PM   #8
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why is win in quotes? do you not think it counts
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Old 10-21-2012, 05:45 PM   #9
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Because he was losing on the score cards and Ortiz quit due to a broken jaw. Ortiz could have possibly stopped him in the later rounds.

That in turn poses the question, did Alvarez get too much credit for Lopez win, and I think he did.
Alvarez gets no credit for beating Lopez. And Ortiz didn't break his own jaw Lopez broke it so he MADE Ortiz quit. He is also the smaller man who moved up just to fight Ortiz and those scorecards were a joke.
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Old 10-21-2012, 05:46 PM   #10
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Scorecards are irrelevant when you stop someone
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Old 10-21-2012, 05:46 PM   #11
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People on here kill me with that "but he was ahead on the cards ****" who cares you get stopped you lose
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Old 10-21-2012, 05:48 PM   #12
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People on here kill me with that "but he was ahead on the cards ****" who cares you get stopped you lose
Ruiz was outboxing Tua and on his way to a dominant decision win before getting KO'd.
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Old 10-21-2012, 06:11 PM   #13
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Ruiz was outboxing Tua and on his way to a dominant decision win before getting KO'd.
Ruiz didn't land 1 punch.
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Old 10-21-2012, 06:18 PM   #14
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Ruiz didn't land 1 punch.
Are you stupid? Tua was eating Ruiz's jab the whole fight.
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Old 10-21-2012, 06:24 PM   #15
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Are you stupid? Tua was eating Ruiz's jab the whole fight.
hey idiot...RUIZ was knocked out in 23 seconds of the 1st round.
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