Bernard Hopkins: higher on ATG list than Floyd and Manny? - Page 3

ConserveWater · 10-22-2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tliang1000

and why isn't Ortiz is not more accomplished?

Pavlik's best win was against Taylor in ONE division.

Ortiz is two division champion and his best win was against Mike arnaoutis, Berto, and he beat Peterson even though it was a draw, and Harris, and campbell.

We are talking about the more impressive victory. Both Pavlik and Pascal are clearly better fighters. If you can't see how KELLY PAVLIK in his prime and Pascal are BETTER than Ortiz. It's pointless.

turbotime · 10-22-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tliang1000

Dawson beat Bhop.

Ok.

Chappy112 · 10-22-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogotazo

I have Bernard over both.

Why's that? I love Bernard, I think he's a special fighter, a real throwback but Pacquiao's resume is godly.

tliang1000 · 10-22-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ConserveWater

Ya at first I thought you were a non bias poster, but after going through your posts I realize you are just a more intelligent version of a Flomo.

Never mind. Lol, after reading some more of what you written and how you think ORTIZ is a better fighter than Prime Pavlik and Prime Pascal.... That level of delusion is almost on par with Pactardism.

I mean if you really want to go there, then lets go. List Bhop's biggest wins compare to Floyd/Pac's.

ConserveWater · 10-22-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tliang1000

I mean if you really want to go there, then lets go. List Bhop's biggest wins compare to Floyd/Pac's.

No I was referring to your comment a bout how Victor Fucking Ortiz is a better win as compare to Prime Pavlik and Prime Pascal.

I don't understand how ANYONE can rate Floyd's win over Ortiz as better than a 43 and 46 year old Bernard's win over PRIME Pavlik and Pascal..

turbotime · 10-22-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ConserveWater

Ya at first I thought you were a non bias poster, but after going through your posts I realize you are just a more intelligent version of a Flomo.

Never mind. Lol, after reading some more of what you written and how you think ORTIZ is a better fighter than Prime Pavlik and Prime Pascal.... That level of delusion is almost on par with Pactardism.

The guy didn't even know he beat Dawson

tliang1000 · 10-22-2012, 03:17 PM

At every angle Floyd and Pac will smoke Bhop. I welcome anyone to the challenge.

knockout artist · 10-22-2012, 03:18 PM

I see Floyd as the best fighter of the last 20 years, then Pacquiao second, with Jones and Hopkins as numbers 3 and 4 respectively

tliang1000 · 10-22-2012, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ConserveWater

No I was referring to your comment a bout how Victor Fucking Ortiz is a better win as compare to Prime Pavlik and Prime Pascal.

I don't understand how ANYONE can rate Floyd's win over Ortiz as better than a 43 and 46 year old Bernard's win over PRIME Pavlik and Pascal..

Regardless of what you think Pavlik or Pascal is better than Ortiz or not bhop still loses badly against Pac/Floyd in terms of accomplishments.

ConserveWater · 10-22-2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tliang1000

At every angle Floyd and Pac will smoke Bhop. I welcome anyone to the challenge.

If you say so. Don't forget to remember this thread in 10 years when a broke Floyd and Pacquaio are getting knocked out by SMW'S for a paycheck.
Than as you watch a 46 year old Floyd being carried out remember what 46 year old Hopkins did to Pascal.

tliang1000 · 10-22-2012, 03:23 PM

Ask yourself who dominate early, mid, and late in their careers?

Floyd was a badass from the amatuer/bronze medalist and crown as champ as a pro at 21.
Pac was crown champ at 20.
Bhop was 30 years old and fought a vacant title.

ROG · 10-22-2012, 03:24 PM

Pussy Boy Floyd and Manny Pacroid are choir boys compared to Ex.

ConserveWater · 10-22-2012, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tliang1000

Ask yourself who dominate early, mid, and late in their careers?

Floyd was a badass from the amatuer/bronze medalist and crown as champ as a pro at 21.
Pac was crown champ at 20.
Bhop was 30 years old and fought a vacant title.

You keep saying it's not impressive that 40+ year old Bernard beating up Tarver-Pascal-Pavlik.

Why is that not impressive? It's not as if Bernard started his career at age 30. His body got a lot of wear and tear going into the Pavlik fight already. Let's see what Floyd will do at age 43( If he's not dead)

tliang1000 · 10-22-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ConserveWater

If you say so. Don't forget to remember this thread in 10 years when a broke Floyd and Pacquaio are getting knocked out by SMW'S for a paycheck.
Than as you watch a 46 year old Floyd being carried out remember what 46 year old Hopkins did to Pascal.

I don't understand why you focus on greatest just bc Bhop's age. It is nobody's fault that he was a late bloomer. You should look at their career as a whole.

tliang1000 · 10-22-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ConserveWater

You keep saying it's not impressive that 40+ year old Bernard beating up Tarver-Pascal-Pavlik.

Why is that not impressive? It's not as if Bernard started his career at age 30. His body got a lot of wear and tear going into the Pavlik fight already. Let's see what Floyd will do at age 43( If he's not dead)

When did i say is not impressive, i have said it was good wins.

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