Who wins Mathysse vs. Garcia?

bronx · 10-22-2012, 05:14 PM

Who do you have right now?

Mathysse
If he was unable to KO Judah, I don't see why he would be picked to stop Danny. Alexander, Judah and Soto all stunned him and made him take a few steps back at times and first two have W's over him. Danny seems to have a solid chin.

Garcia
Seems to punch extremely hard. I don't see why we should expect Lucas to be able to take his punch, should he get caught. Which he will at some point. Morales stunned Garcia once or twice the first fight, but Khan and Holt were unable to phase him at all. I think it's a close fight. Not sure who would win. But I think Danny is brimming confidence right about now.

Vote and let me know what you think!

tliang1000 · 10-22-2012, 05:18 PM

It would more than likely be close to even money by the oddsmaker if the fight materalize.

locard · 10-22-2012, 05:23 PM

Garcia is afraid of fighting Mathysse for a reason

OnePunchKO · 10-22-2012, 05:24 PM

Matthysse by rape.

str1 · 10-22-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bronx

Who do you have right now?

Mathysse
If he was unable to KO Judah, I don't see why he would be picked to stop Danny. Alexander, Judah and Soto all stunned him and made him take a few steps back at times and first two have W's over him. Danny seems to have a solid chin.

Garcia
Seems to punch extremely hard. I don't see why we should expect Lucas to be able to take his punch, should he get caught. Which he will at some point. Morales stunned Garcia once or twice the first fight, but Khan and Holt were unable to phase him at all. I think it's a close fight. Not sure who would win. But I think Danny is brimming confidence right about now.

Vote and let me know what you think!

Judah and Alexander don't slug, Garcia does. Garcia doesn't run around like Alexander and Judah. Garcia vs Mathysse will be an all out war like Rios/Alvarado. As to who wins, I guess that is the intriguing part. That is what makes this fight so mouthwatering!!!

dandur55 · 10-22-2012, 05:28 PM

I don't remember Mathysse got stunned but what i remember he got robbed both against Zab and Alexander.
I give Mathysse %70 chance to beat Garcia.
Beating half dead Morales x2 and chinachino Khan does not make me believe he will get past Mathysse

Heavy Handed · 10-22-2012, 05:28 PM

Mathysse all the way. He fights from the start these days and has learned to put money in the bank. His losses while disputed by some, were really due to Lucas not being active enough early on. Since he's turned it up in the first half of fights, he's destroying people. He's the man at 140 IMO. Unfortunately he'll have to wait to get his shot after the proposed Judah/Garcia fight in 2013. In the meantime, hopefully GBP can get Lucas another fight soon.

DDDUUDDDEE · 10-22-2012, 05:29 PM

It's really close to a 50/50 fight for me. I slightly favour Garcia, possibly by late stoppage.

miniq · 10-22-2012, 05:29 PM

Don't care if Garcia has a good chin is strong and hits hard

Matthysse is a rugged argentinian who has play fights with Maidana for his nights off and has knocked down every man he has faced.

http://www.esnewsreporting.com/wp-co...Matthysse1.jpg
Spars with Martinez LOL

Bogotazo · 10-22-2012, 05:31 PM

Garcia waits a little while to get his timing going. Matthysse likes to stay low when shooting that overhand right, that's how Morales tagged him numerous times in both fights. If Garcia catches him, it could be goodnight, but if Matthysse smothers him chest to chest, he might not get the opportunity. Slightly favor Lucas.

bronx · 10-22-2012, 05:32 PM

I have not voted who is up?

Atritionist · 10-22-2012, 05:32 PM

Danny is very confident right now and is mentally ready for anything. He's got a good left hook but it takes him a while to get his timing right. Another plus for Danny is his body attacks.

In my honest opinion Lucas is an undefeated fighter. I had him ahead on my scorecards for both the Alexander and Judah fight. Lucas has power in both hands and puts punches together very well. He's got a chin that will match Danny's if not better.

This would be a great fight and one that needs to be made. Right now I'm going with the Argentine, nothing against the Philly fighter. I just feel Matthesse is a more complete fighter.

floyd_g.o.a.t · 10-22-2012, 05:33 PM

Those Argentinian can punch!

I dont see Garcia slugging as much as he would. He will definitely change up his style and utilize his jab much more. As we saw against Morales, he does have good boxing skills. He counters well, has a killer left hook, uses his jab to his advantage, and he adjusts and listens to his corner.

I would probably favour Garcia by decision.

The Akbar One · 10-22-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bronx

Who do you have right now?

Mathysse
If he was unable to KO Judah, I don't see why he would be picked to stop Danny. Alexander, Judah and Soto all stunned him and made him take a few steps back at times and first two have W's over him. Danny seems to have a solid chin.

Garcia
Seems to punch extremely hard. I don't see why we should expect Lucas to be able to take his punch, should he get caught. Which he will at some point. Morales stunned Garcia once or twice the first fight, but Khan and Holt were unable to phase him at all. I think it's a close fight. Not sure who would win. But I think Danny is brimming confidence right about now.

Vote and let me know what you think!

I could be missing something, but I don't recall Judah, or Alexander, stunning him. Soto may or may not have actually hurt Matthysse. At one point after a Soto combination, Matthysse did back up for a little bit. He wasn't visibly wobbled or anything though.

Who has actually KO'd Judah? Nobody. Tszyu stopped Judah, but Judah would have beaten the count against Tszyu had he stayed on a knee, and got up at 8. Instead of immediately popping up and doing the stanky leg around the ring. Since that fight, who else has stopped Judah? You don't make sense. You make it seem like everybody and their mother stops Judah.

Judah is more of a mover than Garcia, and is slightly slick. Matthysse will definitely put way more leather on the far less mobile Garcia. Garcia isn't that good. Matthysse will expose that, if Haymon allows that fight to be made.

As far as Garcia punching extremely hard. I disagree. Anybody could have scored a spectacular knockdown of that old washed up Eric Morales who tested positive for P.E.D.s. Garcia didn't even knock Khan out, like Prescott did. Khan actually beat the count only to have the ref stop it. Going further, Garcia's stoppage percentage is only in the 60 percentile. If his power was so great it would be in the 80s or 90s especially with him facing mostly bums.

timeout · 10-22-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by locard

Garcia is afraid of fighting Mathysse for a reason

"he hasnt got belts."

View Poll Results: Who wins?
Danny Garcia	42	28.77%
Lucas Mathysse	104	71.23%
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10-22-2012, 05:14 PM	#1
bronx Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The Bronx Baby Posts: 6,460 vCash: 1124	Who wins Mathysse vs. Garcia? Who do you have right now? Mathysse If he was unable to KO Judah, I don't see why he would be picked to stop Danny. Alexander, Judah and Soto all stunned him and made him take a few steps back at times and first two have W's over him. Danny seems to have a solid chin. Garcia Seems to punch extremely hard. I don't see why we should expect Lucas to be able to take his punch, should he get caught. Which he will at some point. Morales stunned Garcia once or twice the first fight, but Khan and Holt were unable to phase him at all. I think it's a close fight. Not sure who would win. But I think Danny is brimming confidence right about now. Vote and let me know what you think!
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10-22-2012, 05:18 PM	#2
tliang1000 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,072 vCash: 79444	Re: Who wins Mathysse vs. Garcia? It would more than likely be close to even money by the oddsmaker if the fight materalize.
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10-22-2012, 05:23 PM	#3
locard Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,675 vCash: 495	Re: Who wins Mathysse vs. Garcia? Garcia is afraid of fighting Mathysse for a reason
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10-22-2012, 05:24 PM	#4
OnePunchKO Finding Memo (ROIDquez) East Side Guru Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 8,292 vCash: 75	Re: Who wins Mathysse vs. Garcia? Matthysse by rape.
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dandur55 Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 382 vCash: 500	Re: Who wins Mathysse vs. Garcia? I don't remember Mathysse got stunned but what i remember he got robbed both against Zab and Alexander. I give Mathysse %70 chance to beat Garcia. Beating half dead Morales x2 and chinachino Khan does not make me believe he will get past Mathysse
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10-22-2012, 05:28 PM	#7
Heavy Handed I keep planets in orbit ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: The Infinite Posts: 2,014 vCash: 500	Re: Who wins Mathysse vs. Garcia? Mathysse all the way. He fights from the start these days and has learned to put money in the bank. His losses while disputed by some, were really due to Lucas not being active enough early on. Since he's turned it up in the first half of fights, he's destroying people. He's the man at 140 IMO. Unfortunately he'll have to wait to get his shot after the proposed Judah/Garcia fight in 2013. In the meantime, hopefully GBP can get Lucas another fight soon.
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10-22-2012, 05:29 PM	#8
DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 13,432 vCash: 500	Re: Who wins Mathysse vs. Garcia? It's really close to a 50/50 fight for me. I slightly favour Garcia, possibly by late stoppage.
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miniq 移动像水 East Side Guru Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: England Posts: 5,060 vCash: 75	Re: Who wins Mathysse vs. Garcia? Don't care if Garcia has a good chin is strong and hits hard Matthysse is a rugged argentinian who has play fights with Maidana for his nights off and has knocked down every man he has faced. http://www.esnewsreporting.com/wp-co...Matthysse1.jpg Spars with Martinez LOL
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10-22-2012, 05:31 PM	#10
Bogotazo Amateur East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: New York Posts: 17,616 vCash: 0	Re: Who wins Mathysse vs. Garcia? Garcia waits a little while to get his timing going. Matthysse likes to stay low when shooting that overhand right, that's how Morales tagged him numerous times in both fights. If Garcia catches him, it could be goodnight, but if Matthysse smothers him chest to chest, he might not get the opportunity. Slightly favor Lucas.
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10-22-2012, 05:32 PM	#11
bronx Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The Bronx Baby Posts: 6,460 vCash: 1124	Re: Who wins Mathysse vs. Garcia? I have not voted who is up?
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10-22-2012, 05:32 PM	#12
Atritionist Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,924 vCash: 1000	Re: Who wins Mathysse vs. Garcia? Danny is very confident right now and is mentally ready for anything. He's got a good left hook but it takes him a while to get his timing right. Another plus for Danny is his body attacks. In my honest opinion Lucas is an undefeated fighter. I had him ahead on my scorecards for both the Alexander and Judah fight. Lucas has power in both hands and puts punches together very well. He's got a chin that will match Danny's if not better. This would be a great fight and one that needs to be made. Right now I'm going with the Argentine, nothing against the Philly fighter. I just feel Matthesse is a more complete fighter.
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10-22-2012, 05:33 PM	#13
floyd_g.o.a.t Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 9,304 vCash: 10000	Re: Who wins Mathysse vs. Garcia? Those Argentinian can punch! I dont see Garcia slugging as much as he would. He will definitely change up his style and utilize his jab much more. As we saw against Morales, he does have good boxing skills. He counters well, has a killer left hook, uses his jab to his advantage, and he adjusts and listens to his corner. I would probably favour Garcia by decision.
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