Toughest Fighter Ever

Vic-JofreBRASIL · 10-24-2012, 03:56 PM

in MMA/Vale-Tudo history...

I think we have a lot of guys to mention here.

I start with one tough bastard....Oleg Taktarov.
His fights with Severn and Ruas (the first one, a robbery but he took some heavy leg kicks with an injured knee IIRC) were examples of his toughness....

http://images.picturesdepot.com/phot...arov-26863.jpg

The old timers like Carlson Gracie deserve a mention as well.....

UnleashtheFURY · 10-24-2012, 04:04 PM

http://www.businesspundit.com/wp-con...zzzzzfedor.jpg

concrete sledge · 10-24-2012, 04:22 PM

Mark Coleman and Phil Baroni

RememberingC.S. · 10-24-2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by UnleashtheFURY

http://www.businesspundit.com/wp-con...zzzzzfedor.jpg

I recently saw the match in which he landed on his head, and he continued like never happened... this man is a monster

Rob_Floyd · 10-24-2012, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RememberingC.S.

I recently saw the match in which he landed on his head, and he continued like never happened... this man is a monster

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http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Randlep...d5_3897054.gif

greathamza · 10-24-2012, 04:56 PM

Chris Lytle could take some punishment

Flea Man · 10-24-2012, 04:58 PM

Maldonado has to be up there!

Fedor for me. As already mentioned, the Randleman suplex was insane.

Fedor's recuperative powers in his prime were unreal, but he loses points for being stunne by Fujita in the first place.

So I'll take Hendo for 'best chin in MMA history'.

Rob_Floyd · 10-24-2012, 05:03 PM

This guy, of course

http://www.mmanews.com/uploads_admin...akuraba(2).jpg

UnleashtheFURY · 10-24-2012, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Flea Man

Maldonado has to be up there!

Fedor for me. As already mentioned, the Randleman suplex was insane.

Fedor's recuperative powers in his prime were unreal, but he loses points for being stunne by Fujita in the first place.

So I'll take Hendo for 'best chin in MMA history'.

Fujita hits hard man... That shot would have put most guys out. Hendo has been dropped several times in his career, while Fedor was never dropped.

BobDigi5060 · 10-24-2012, 05:05 PM

Fedor, and he won all the fights that mattered.

greathamza · 10-24-2012, 05:08 PM

Big Nog could take some serious damage too

Primenal · 10-24-2012, 05:18 PM

I'm saddened nobody said Bob Sapp. C'mon.. Guy is clearly a monster and tough as a brick wall. Oh wait, those were my impressions when I first saw him, but changed shortly after.

afterglow · 10-24-2012, 05:39 PM

Big Nog is the obviously answer to this question.

To take the punishment he did at that high of a level was insane. Espically considering he he didn't lose most of them.

rusty nails · 10-24-2012, 07:54 PM

oleg sure was one tough son of a gun..
frank shamrock
yuki nakai
fabio gurgel
big nog of course

Haggis McJackass · 10-24-2012, 08:07 PM

I think that once you reach a certain level, it becomes meaningless to try to rank them.

There are any number of guys who will fight until they are knocked unconscious, or until they are rendered physically unable to continue. (Broken arm, cuts to face, broken eye socket etc.) Even then, many guys will be keen to keep fighting.

What you are really asking is, who is the most durable/stubborn fighter ever. Who can soak up the most punishment, not who is willing to soak up the most punishment.

And for those saying Big Nog, no disrespect to the legend, but to be honest I am more impressed with the toughness of a guy like Maldonado a couple of weeks ago. That guy had no chance to win except by hail-mary Kongo-Barry style lottery punch, and he knew it. But he was keen to try his best to land that jackpot punch, no matter what the cost. He was a limited fighter who was totally outclassed and outgunned, took a horrific beating, and hung in there from sheer stubbornness.

Different scenario for someone like Nog, who knows he's world class and knows he can submit anybody if they make just one mistake. He knows that even if Fedor is giving him a beating and is a better fighter, Fedor is not THAT much better and it's still a competitive matchup. A guy like Maldonado doesn't have that knowledge, doesn't have many good moments in the fight to keep his spirits up, and has to rely much more on sheer toughness to carry him through.

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Vic-JofreBRASIL Vic East Side VIP Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Santos Posts: 13,842 vCash: 1166	Toughest Fighter Ever in MMA/Vale-Tudo history... I think we have a lot of guys to mention here. I start with one tough bastard....Oleg Taktarov. His fights with Severn and Ruas (the first one, a robbery but he took some heavy leg kicks with an injured knee IIRC) were examples of his toughness.... http://images.picturesdepot.com/phot...arov-26863.jpg The old timers like Carlson Gracie deserve a mention as well.....
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UnleashtheFURY Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,748 vCash: 500	Re: Toughest Fighter Ever http://www.businesspundit.com/wp-con...zzzzzfedor.jpg
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Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,051 vCash: 75	Re: Toughest Fighter Ever Maldonado has to be up there! Fedor for me. As already mentioned, the Randleman suplex was insane. Fedor's recuperative powers in his prime were unreal, but he loses points for being stunne by Fujita in the first place. So I'll take Hendo for 'best chin in MMA history'.
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Rob_Floyd Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 4,981 vCash: 847	Re: Toughest Fighter Ever This guy, of course http://www.mmanews.com/uploads_admin...akuraba(2).jpg
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BobDigi5060 East Side MMA East Side Guru Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: TX Posts: 8,953 vCash: 553	Re: Toughest Fighter Ever Fedor, and he won all the fights that mattered.
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greathamza Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: sweden Posts: 6,289 vCash: 75	Re: Toughest Fighter Ever Big Nog could take some serious damage too
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Primenal Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,294 vCash: 1000	Re: Toughest Fighter Ever I'm saddened nobody said Bob Sapp. C'mon.. Guy is clearly a monster and tough as a brick wall. Oh wait, those were my impressions when I first saw him, but changed shortly after.
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afterglow Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 1,568 vCash: 500	Re: Toughest Fighter Ever Big Nog is the obviously answer to this question. To take the punishment he did at that high of a level was insane. Espically considering he he didn't lose most of them.
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rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: dunno..where am i??? Posts: 6,723 vCash: 1000	Re: Toughest Fighter Ever oleg sure was one tough son of a gun.. frank shamrock yuki nakai fabio gurgel big nog of course
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Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: From the Lands Down Under. Posts: 22,523 vCash: 177	Re: Toughest Fighter Ever I think that once you reach a certain level, it becomes meaningless to try to rank them. There are any number of guys who will fight until they are knocked unconscious, or until they are rendered physically unable to continue. (Broken arm, cuts to face, broken eye socket etc.) Even then, many guys will be keen to keep fighting. What you are really asking is, who is the most durable/stubborn fighter ever. Who can soak up the most punishment, not who is willing to soak up the most punishment. And for those saying Big Nog, no disrespect to the legend, but to be honest I am more impressed with the toughness of a guy like Maldonado a couple of weeks ago. That guy had no chance to win except by hail-mary Kongo-Barry style lottery punch, and he knew it. But he was keen to try his best to land that jackpot punch, no matter what the cost. He was a limited fighter who was totally outclassed and outgunned, took a horrific beating, and hung in there from sheer stubbornness. Different scenario for someone like Nog, who knows he's world class and knows he can submit anybody if they make just one mistake. He knows that even if Fedor is giving him a beating and is a better fighter, Fedor is not THAT much better and it's still a competitive matchup. A guy like Maldonado doesn't have that knowledge, doesn't have many good moments in the fight to keep his spirits up, and has to rely much more on sheer toughness to carry him through.
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