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Old 10-24-2012, 03:17 PM   #31
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A fighter of Pacquiao's size beating a big heavyweight is not unprecedented. A lot of people will post "Valuev KO1" or whatever, but those people have to answer how Valuev will land any significant punch.

There was a similar thread about Mayweather a while ago. People were picking big, slow, hard hitting fighters to stop Mayweather but couldn't answer how those fighters could lay a glove on him whereas faster more accurate puncher couldn't hit Mayweather with a hand full of rice.

Pacquiao would have such a speed advantage, of hand and foot, he would never get beaten in a round.
If you've ever boxed you'll know that the biggest advantage of being the physically bigger man in a boxing ring is simply being able to close the distance easier and get your shots off from a more suitable range..

Basically Valuev would close the gap and any tactics would go out the window..
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:20 PM   #32
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A fighter of Pacquiao's size beating a big heavyweight is not unprecedented. A lot of people will post "Valuev KO1" or whatever, but those people have to answer how Valuev will land any significant punch.

There was a similar thread about Mayweather a while ago. People were picking big, slow, hard hitting fighters to stop Mayweather but couldn't answer how those fighters could lay a glove on him whereas faster more accurate puncher couldn't hit Mayweather with a hand full of rice.

Pacquiao would have such a speed advantage, of hand and foot, he would never get beaten in a round.
Did you ever step into a ring and spar yourself? Did you ever get punched by a guy weighing more than twice your own weight? Do you actually think 16 ounce boxing gloves can protect you from a 250+ pound punch thrown at you?
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:21 PM   #33
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Did you see Mosley fighting shaq Mosley had nowhere to run.

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Wtf was that`?

Seriously what was that? was that serious boxing?
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:23 PM   #34
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The sad thing is enough of us got lured to this thread like flies to a pile of shit to make it 3 pages long.
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:28 PM   #35
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Never heard of Langford or Quai?
Langford weighed in around 175-180 at his best, pac barely weighs in at 150 . So lets say pac moved up to heavy he would have to put on another 25 pounds just to compete All his speed would be gone.
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:30 PM   #36
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He would walk right through Pac with nothing to fear. With Haye he had to respect his power with pac he wouldn't have to. He would eventually get Pac to the ropes and maul him with big clubbing blows that his guard couldn't protect him from. What most are forgetting is that Valuev wouldn't be looking to box he would be looking only to maul and stop Pac. The guy is just too big.
What could pac do punch his belly button? Next they will be telling me pac hits harder than haye.
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:31 PM   #37
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Wtf was that`?

Seriously what was that? was that serious boxing?
Sparring exhibition.
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:32 PM   #38
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Valuev breaks pacs neck when hitting him in the shoulder
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:35 PM   #39
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Doesn't matter if it's manny, floyd or whoever else; Valuev wouldn't need DIRECT shots; he culd just slaps large hooks, the reach disadvantage is too much; no guard or gloves could ever protect a welter weight chin for more than two orm three rounds; and floyd is also known for having a relatively weak chin, so; but mostly, no one of them could even reach Valuev's jaw with enough power; Valuev had a solid chin; the REAL question is: what VERSION of Valuev is intended? Because the gigantis caused him a flashing healt decay; go watch Valuev vs Barrett, and you will understand why he lost (at points, and with no great difference) against Haye.
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:36 PM   #40
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Never heard of Langford or Quai?
What about them?

Did they ever fight anyone 18 inches taller than them and more than twice their weight?
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:37 PM   #41
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Did you ever step into a ring and spar yourself? Did you ever get punched by a guy weighing more than twice your own weight? Do you actually think 16 ounce boxing gloves can protect you from a 250+ pound punch thrown at you?
not only he was never hit by a 320 pound guy, he obviously doesn't know how it's like to clinch with something like that. And it's like lifting a 320 pound barbell and trying to box after that.
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:38 PM   #42
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Will there ever be a boy born who can swim as fast as a shark?
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:38 PM   #43
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I once took a 7 day ban for making this exact same thread.
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:40 PM   #44
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Doesn't matter if it's manny, floyd or whoever else; Valuev wouldn't need DIRECT shots; he culd just slaps large hooks, the reach disadvantage is too much; no guard or gloves could ever protect a welter weight chin for more than two orm three rounds; and floyd is also known for having a relatively weak chin, so; but mostly, no one of them could even reach Valuev's jaw with enough power; Valuev had a solid chin; the REAL question is: what VERSION of Valuev is intended? Because the gigantis caused him a flashing healt decay; go watch Valuev vs Barrett, and you will understand why he lost (at points, and with no great difference) against Haye.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oaz_B3VeTQ[/ame]
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:41 PM   #45
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Pacman would get DQ cus there's no way he could hit Valuev anywhere above the waistline, even if he tried punching him mid jump.
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