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Old 10-24-2012, 03:44 PM   #46
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:29 PM   #49
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What could pac do punch his belly button? Next they will be telling me pac hits harder than haye.
Exactly. He couldn't even reach his head. He would get walked through out muscled and stopped.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:57 PM   #50
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Pacuiao by UD(Very serious). I don't think Valuev would land a single clean shot the entire fight, all he does is throw slow jabs and gets gift decisions.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:03 PM   #51
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Pacuiao by UD(Very serious). I don't think Valuev would land a single clean shot the entire fight, all he does is throw slow jabs and gets gift decisions.
Valuev would stop him

Pac has a reach a foot shorter than Haye, and hits less than half as hard

Valuev would not even bother covering up, just walk through him and club him
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:24 PM   #52
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What about them?

Did they ever fight anyone 18 inches taller than them and more than twice their weight?
They were 5'6" and 5'5" and they have beating heavyweights.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:27 PM   #53
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Valuev would stop him

Pac has a reach a foot shorter than Haye, and hits less than half as hard

Valuev would not even bother covering up, just walk through him and club him
And you think Pacquiao will stand there and let him hit him?

Pacquiao footwork will keep him out of harms way.

Valuev's punches are so slow Pacquiao will have more than enough time to avoid them.

Valuev's speed will make Oscar that Pac fought look like a prime Roy Jones.

Valuev will be chasing shadows all night.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:29 PM   #54
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Langford weighed in around 175-180 at his best, pac barely weighs in at 150 . So lets say pac moved up to heavy he would have to put on another 25 pounds just to compete All his speed would be gone.
Langford was 160lbs and knocking out heavies.

Pacquiao could easily put on another 25 lbs and still be a lot quicker than Haye and much to quick for Valuev to hit.

Pacquiao will see every punch that Valuev throws.
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And you think Pacquiao will stand there and let him hit him?

Pacquiao footwork will keep him out of harms way.

Valuev's punches are so slow Pacquiao will have more than enough time to avoid them.

Valuev's speed will make Oscar that Pac fought look like a prime Roy Jones.

Valuev will be chasing shadows all night.
You know Valuev can do side sweeping "punches"?

He doesn't need straight punches, no way Pacman is going to hit him.
If Pacman comes close enough to hit Valuev, Valuev can clinch him and get some punches on him, no matter how slow he hits, it's too hard for pacman.
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Langford was 160lbs and knocking out heavies.

Pacquiao could easily put on another 25 lbs and still be a lot quicker than Haye and much to quick for Valuev to hit.

Pacquiao will see every punch that Valuev throws.
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Also wouldn't Pacman need any weight, his only chance is outspeeding Valuev as much as possible.
Extra weight is not going to help him.
25 lbs extra and he way too heavy for his small frame.
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Langford was 160lbs and knocking out heavies.

Pacquiao could easily put on another 25 lbs and still be a lot quicker than Haye and much to quick for Valuev to hit.

Pacquiao will see every punch that Valuev throws.
"Easily put on 25lbs???"

The guy only weighs 150! 25 pounds would be a MASSIVE amount of weight to put in!

And Langford wasnt fighting 7 foot tall 300 lbs'ers!
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And you think Pacquiao will stand there and let him hit him?

Pacquiao footwork will keep him out of harms way.

Valuev's punches are so slow Pacquiao will have more than enough time to avoid them.

Valuev's speed will make Oscar that Pac fought look like a prime Roy Jones.

Valuev will be chasing shadows all night.
Footwork wouldn't mean anything because in order for Pacquiao to be out of range he would stand no chance of hitting Valuev (who has an 85'' reach - to put that in perspective, Manny Pacquiao measured standing up is only 65 inches tall)

At the point wheer Valuev would be able to strike Emmanuel, Emmanuels fist would be exactly 18 inches (the better part of two foot) away from reaching the giant.

To put THAT in perspective, Manny probably has a width of about 20 inches between his back and front foot when he boxes, this means in order to reach valuev, he has to transport his entire body, three times his own body width to get in and out
This is neglecting the fact he wouldn't be able to reach Valuevs head, the fact that if Valuev caught him once he'd be in trouble etc
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They were 5'6" and 5'5" and they have beating heavyweights.
They were also MUCH bigger and more powerfully builkt than Pacquiao,and were fighting "heavyweights" who weighed in and around 200 lbs
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You know Valuev can do side sweeping "punches"?

He doesn't need straight punches, no way Pacman is going to hit him.
If Pacman comes close enough to hit Valuev, Valuev can clinch him and get some punches on him, no matter how slow he hits, it's too hard for pacman.
Pacquiao needs to stay out of punching range, control the centre of the ring, dive in with a couple of punches and get out.

24 foot ring.

An average boxer's reflexes are phenomenal, Pacquiao's is a few classes above that.

Valuev, though a pro- boxer is very slow due to his size him big sweeping hook will be avoided by Pacquiao.

And even if they catch Pacquiao, if he can see them coming he can ride them and be OK.
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