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Old 10-24-2012, 05:44 PM   #61
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They were also MUCH bigger and more powerfully builkt than Pacquiao,and were fighting "heavyweights" who weighed in and around 200 lbs
Langford did fight at welter at one point I think and fought heavies when he was only 160lbs.

Pacquiao will need to put on some mass, about 25 lbs more should be enough

Guys that are 175lbs before have KOed 300lbs plus guys.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:46 PM   #62
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160-206 lbs.


Also wouldn't Pacman need any weight, his only chance is outspeeding Valuev as much as possible.
Extra weight is not going to help him.
25 lbs extra and he way too heavy for his small frame.
His punches would still need to hurt Valuev IMO, at 175-180lbs they would.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:49 PM   #63
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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbN-mWON6Ug[/ame]

Check this clip out of Quai clowning a former heavyweight champ of the world.

Couldn't lay a glove on him even though he was right in front of his face.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:50 PM   #64
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His punches would still need to hurt Valuev IMO, at 175-180lbs they would.
Haye broke his hand on Valuev's head and a blown up flyweight is somehow supposed to hurt Valuev?
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:55 PM   #65
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Check this clip out of Quai clowning a former heavyweight champ of the world.

Couldn't lay a glove on him even though he was right in front of his face.
Leon isn't 7 foot, and Quai isn't a blown up flyweight.

Also Leon Spinks actually had to be careful as Dwight could hurt him, no way Pacman is going to hurt Valuev.
And what kind of pitty pat punches was he throwing?

If Pacman wants to hit Valuev he first has to nearly stand against Valuev with his head in his belly and then jump to catch his jaw.
Valuev as slow as he is would be able to clinch him.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:55 PM   #66
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Haye broke his hand on Valuev's head and a blown up flyweight is somehow supposed to hurt Valuev?
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Pacquiao has the wrists of a heavyweight, I think they are bigger than Haye's

Pacquiao's speed and power could rip flesh, cause cut.

Valuev will respect Pacquiao's power.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:57 PM   #67
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Leon isn't 7 foot, and Quai isn't a blown up flyweight.

Also Leon Spinks actually had to be careful as Dwight could hurt him, no way Pacman is going to hurt Valuev.
And what kind of pitty pat punches was he throwing?

If Pacman wants to hit Valuev he first has to nearly stand against Valuev with his head in his belly and then jump to catch his jaw.
Valuev as slow as he is would be able to clinch him.


Pacquiao throw a very good vertical jab, will easily get through Valuev gaurd.

Pacquiao is not going to be standing around and trading also, he will look to turn Valuev and keep him moving.

Not sure if Nikolai will be able to keep up with this pace and will fade in the later rounds.
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Guy is straight trollin'
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Old 10-24-2012, 06:01 PM   #69
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A 12 and a half stone ripped Pacquiao will punch as hard as a big hitting heavyweight.

8oz glove

24 foot ring

260lbs catchweight

Make it happen Bob
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Pacquiao has the wrists of a heavyweight, I think they are bigger than Haye's

Pacquiao's speed and power could rip flesh, cause cut.

Valuev will respect Pacquiao's power.
Against other midgets his power is extreme.

But Valuev is 7 foot, try hitting an object with full power that is at a height you can barely reach.
You can't.
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Lets not forget Pacquiao has carried his speed and power up through the weight, maybe he can carry it up to 175-180lbs
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Against other midgets his power is extreme.

But Valuev is 7 foot, try hitting an object with full power that is at a height you can barely reach.
You can't.
Guys that are around 175lbs have KOed guys around 300 lbs before.
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Old 10-24-2012, 06:07 PM   #73
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Haha this is a joke.

Go and watch NBA legend Shaq vs Oscar De La Hoya and also Shaq vs Mosley and you will have a greater idea.

Bare in mind Valuev is a top heavyweight professional boxer.
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Guys that are around 175lbs have KOed guys around 300 lbs before.
Not with a size difference this big.

Also Valuev isn't glass jawed, if he was that overhand right that crushed Haye his own hand would have KO'd Valuev.
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Not with a size difference this big.

Also Valuev isn't glass jawed, if he was that overhand right that crushed Haye his own hand would have KO'd Valuev.
He won't need to KO him, just have him respect his power.
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