List your most underrated fighters per weight class

[kmac]

imo these fighters, while recognized as greats, don't get the full respect they truly deserve.

heavy - evander holyfield
light heavy - tommy loughran
middle - lloyd marshall
welter - oscar de la hoya
light - ike williams
feather - salvador sanchez
bantam - panama al brown
fly - pancho villa

[PhillyPhan69]

Originally Posted by kmac

imo these fighters, while recognized as greats, don't get the full respect they truly deserve.

heavy - evander holyfield
light heavy - tommy loughran
middle - lloyd marshall
welter - oscar de la hoya
light - ike williams
feather - salvador sanchez
bantam - panama al brown
fly - pancho villa

Nice shout out for Loughran.....but w/ the exception of those who picked Billy Conn to beat him in a hypo H2H, he really isn't that underrated.

[Theron]

I always thought Tony Zale at middleweight just for the reason that at the time a fight was trying to be planned between him and Ray Robinson and many thought Tony would win and so do i he was great

[scartissue]

Heavy - Jack Sharkey
Lt. Heavy - Victor Galindez
Middle - Vito Antuofermo
Jr. Middle - Ayub Kalule
Welter - Angel Espada
Jr. Welter - Eddie Perkins
Light - Rodolfo Gonzalez
Jr. Light - Kuniaki Shibata
Feather - Ruben Olivares (at 126)
Bantam - Chucho Castillo
Fly - Venice Borkorsor

[Bill Butcher]

Originally Posted by kmac

imo these fighters, while recognized as greats, don't get the full respect they truly deserve.

feather - salvador sanchez

[Bill Butcher]

Originally Posted by Theron

I always thought Tony Zale at middleweight just for the reason that at the time a fight was trying to be planned between him and Ray Robinson and many thought Tony would win and so do i he was great

Zale`s not beating Robinson, lets not go overboard.

[turbotime]

heavy - Sonny Liston
light heavy - Maxie Rosenbloom
middle - Chuck Burley
welter - oscar de la hoya
light - Shane Mosley
feather - Manny Pac
bantam - panama al brown
fly - pancho villa

[Colonel Sanders]

Originally Posted by Bill Butcher

Zale`s not beating Robinson, lets not go overboard.

Lamotta, Turpin, Basilio and Fullmer, they all can beat SRR, but Tony Zale, that bum, he doesn't stand a snowball chance in hell

[Hands of Iron]

Originally Posted by Colonel Sanders

Lamotta, Turpin, Basilio and Fullmer, they all can beat SRR, but Tony Zale, that bum, he doesn't stand a snowball chance in hell

FFS Colonel, Fullmer and Basilio? Robinson was well past it when he came back in 1955 in his mid-30s after a nearly three-year retirement, and those fights occured even a couple years after that. He still got both of them in incredibly satisfying rematch wins. Those guys were great fighters yes, but the Wins are rated high especially due to circumstance and the stage of his career Robinson was in at the time. LaMotta had 16 lbs on him, and was stopped the only time he fought a legit MW version (the sixth time) though it's still a GREAT win for Jake regardless. Turpin, alright.

[kmac]

Originally Posted by Bill Butcher

ok, i understand that sanchez is usually considered one of the greats of the division but i think he's one of the best fighters i've ever seen. i understand we never got to see the downside of his career but h2h at feather he is a complete beast.

[The Wanderer]

I think Ezzard Charles has to earn a spot, possibly in multiple divisions.

[Colonel Sanders]

Originally Posted by Hands of Iron

FFS Colonel, Fullmer and Basilio? Robinson was well past it when he came back in 1955 in his mid-30s after a nearly three-year retirement, and those fights occured even a couple years after that. He still got both of them in incredibly satisfying rematch wins. Those guys were great fighters yes, but the Wins are rated high especially due to circumstance and the stage of his career Robinson was in at the time. LaMotta had 16 lbs on him, and was stopped the only time he fought a legit MW version (the sixth time) though it's still a GREAT win for Jake regardless. Turpin, alright.

I do know an older, lesser version of SRR lost to Basilio and Fullmer, but you made it sound like Zale doesn't belong in a ring with SRR. I don't think Zale is a lesser fighter than Turpin.

and here, starting at 31:16, some interesting stuff about a potential Zale-SRR fight

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[Hands of Iron]

Originally Posted by Colonel Sanders

I do know an older, lesser version of SRR lost to Basilio and Fullmer, but you made it sound like Zale doesn't belong in a ring with SRR. I don't think Zale is a lesser fighter than Turpin.

and here, starting at 31:16, some interesting stuff about a potential Zale-SRR fight

[url]***********.youtube.com/watch?v=BcMDraAEEvg[/url]

No I didn't, that was Bill Butcher! Never said Zale wouldn't have a shot either, mayne. I was responding specifically to all the mentioned losses.

[thistle1]

I always thought Greg Haugan is a bit underated, great tough battler who had his moment at the top along side some proper good fighters!

[janitor]

Somtimes you get a fighter who is a dominant force in a division for a significant period, who literaly falls off the map. Jeff Clark is such an example. He was a huge force at midleweight and light heavyweigh at his peak, seen as an uncrowned champion by many, but today he is forgotten.