Boxing  

Forum Home Boxing Forum Lounge European British Aussie MMA Classic Training
Go Back   East Side Boxing Forum > Boxing > General Boxing Forum

 
  


View Poll Results: Who do you think Wins?
Wlad by KO or TKO 29 82.86%
Wlad by UD 2 5.71%
Wach by KO or TKO 3 8.57%
Wach by UD 1 2.86%
Voters: 35. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-27-2012, 01:47 PM   #1
BoxingFan2010
Heavyweight Champion
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary.Alberta.Canada
Posts: 3,071
vCash: 2217
Default Wladimir Klitschko: Will Trainer Manny Steward's Death Expsose Old Cracks?

Wladimir Klitschko: Will Trainer Manny Steward's Death Expsose Old Cracks?


The [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] of legendary trainer Emanuel Steward will be felt throughout boxing.
Steward played a part in the guidance and training of many boxers, and a large number
of former champions including retired heavyweight boxer Lennox Lewis, and more recently,
current title chaser Miguel Cotto.

One of Steward's notable students of late is reigning WBA (Super), IBF, WBO, IBO and The
Ring heavyweight champion, Wladimir Klitschko, which got me thinking. Will Manny's passing
expose some of the old cracks that he spent the last eight years filling in?

Klitschko enlisted [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] as he looked to rebuild his
career after losing his WBO heavyweight title when the late Corrie Sanders stopped him out
in the second round of their 2003 fight, dropping him four times in the process.

As can be the case with fighter and trainer, success didn't come immediately. Klitschko was
stopped by Lamon Brewster in a 2004 world title challenge. That loss, though, was the last
time Klitschko was defeated in the boxing ring. His decision to stick with Steward seemed to
have paid off.

With three stoppages in his career, Klitschko has had his chin [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] ever since.
In fact, his chin has also been labelled weak by former opponents including [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] and
Jean-Marc Mormeck in the build up to their 2011 and 2012 bouts with the champion.

In the end, Klitschko was standing tall and victorious over both opponents, and over everybody
he has faced since the loss the
Brewster.


http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/ar...340&h=207&q=85

Scott Heavey/Getty Images

Undoubtedly a talented boxer, is it talent alone or is it the guidance of the man who was able
to teach Klitschko to utilize his strengths while masking his weaknesses that has allowed a man
labelled as "chinny" to be so dominant?

Under Steward's tutelage, Klitschko has boxed masterfully behind his jab. He has learned to
patiently break down his opponent while keeping himself out of trouble by making the most of the
reach advantage he's had over so many.

Throughout Klitschko's partnership with Steward, he never once appeared unprepared coming into
a fight, as he did when he lost his first fight to Ross Puritty back in 1998. The pair seemed to
always have the perfect game plan in place for their opponent, and Klitschko appeared to have
complete trust in how Steward has tutored him for the man staring him down across the ring.

Klitschko is scheduled to face the unheralded, but also undefeated, Mariusz Wach in a few weeks
time on Nov. 10. The fight will pit Klitschko against a taller opponent and will give us a glimpse into
how Klitschko will box without Steward in his corner.

Will Klitschko stick to the methods for both training and boxing that Steward spent years instilling
in him, or will he decide his talent alone allowed him such domination? Will the past taunts of the
weak chin on Klitschko's face ring true without the man who has taught him to protect it all these
years with in and out movement, a stiff jab and high hands?

Steward's loss will leave a hole in boxing, but could the biggest hole of all be showing on his biggest
client?



Seen this on the net. What do you think? I think this fight does not go past 6 and I think Wlad will
try for the early KO for manny. Thoughts?
BoxingFan2010 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 10-27-2012, 01:51 PM   #2
dyna
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 4,547
vCash: 1551
Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko: Will Trainer Manny Steward's Death Expsose Old Cracks?

Wlad is old enough to do it on his own now.
dyna is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2012, 01:53 PM   #3
Meow
Lewis refused the rematch
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 843
vCash: 500
Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko: Will Trainer Manny Steward's Death Expsose Old Cracks?

Whoever wrote that article is an idiot and is trying to take a death and make it into some sort of unrelated story. Total garbage.
Meow is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2012, 01:55 PM   #4
kh80290z
Journeyman
ESB Jr Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 240
vCash: 500
Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko: Will Trainer Manny Steward's Death Expsose Old Cracks?

Wlad will play this tactically, wont take any risks, and will go into his shell, i predict Wlad by UD
kh80290z is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2012, 02:12 PM   #5
derrick
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Brunswick Georgia
Posts: 1,571
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko: Will Trainer Manny Steward's Death Expsose Old Cracks?

Wlad is going to get hit on his weak chin and freak out. Wach is going to land one right hand and beat Wlad the egg Klitschko
derrick is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2012, 03:35 PM   #6
chico g
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 3,083
vCash: 1038
Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko: Will Trainer Manny Steward's Death Expsose Old Cracks?

Wlad will get brutalized. We all know Manny was the real brains behind the outfit.
chico g is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2012, 03:39 PM   #7
Ilesey
P4P King
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Cymru
Posts: 23,749
vCash: 75
Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko: Will Trainer Manny Steward's Death Expsose Old Cracks?

No, certainly not against Wach.
Ilesey is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2012, 03:45 PM   #8
orriray59
weird
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: The Green Isle
Posts: 13,235
vCash: 82
Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko: Will Trainer Manny Steward's Death Expsose Old Cracks?

I highly doubt it to be honest. Wladimir's changed as a fighter, I doubt he'll ever become reckless again. He's not a child, he's a 36 year old man with plenty of experience at the top level in heavyweight boxing.

Just because Steward isn't there doesn't mean he's going to lose 8 years worth of knowledge.
orriray59 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2012, 03:45 PM   #9
On The Money
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 3,950
vCash: 500
Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko: Will Trainer Manny Steward's Death Expsose Old Cracks?

it might have the opposite affect and make Wlad even more determined.
On The Money is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2012, 03:47 PM   #10
tezel8764
Ain't No Stopping Us Now
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,796
vCash: 527
Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko: Will Trainer Manny Steward's Death Expsose Old Cracks?

Wach is not skilled enough to push Wlad in that territory.
tezel8764 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2012, 04:25 PM   #11
doylexxx
Undisputed Champion
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 10,286
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko: Will Trainer Manny Steward's Death Expsose Old Cracks?

real question is who will replace Manny

no matter how experienced or accomplished a pro is, he always needs a trainer , someone on the outside providing game plans etc etc


thats gonna be a big change for Klit right now

probably Fritz again
doylexxx is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2012, 04:26 PM   #12
Hatesrats
"Al Grito De Guerra"
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Oxnard, CA
Posts: 26,005
vCash: 75
Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko: Will Trainer Manny Steward's Death Expsose Old Cracks?

Business as usual, Wlad will beat him down & TKO him around the 10th.
Hatesrats is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2012, 04:27 PM   #13
oibighead
G.O.A.T.
East Side Guru
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: London
Posts: 7,153
vCash: 75
Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko: Will Trainer Manny Steward's Death Expsose Old Cracks?

Wlad will have it all nailed down.

He just needs someone to help him into fighting shape
oibighead is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2012, 04:32 PM   #14
Meow
Lewis refused the rematch
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 843
vCash: 500
Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko: Will Trainer Manny Steward's Death Expsose Old Cracks?

Quote:
Originally Posted by derrick View Post
Wlad is going to get hit on his weak chin and freak out. Wach is going to land one right hand and beat Wlad the egg Klitschko
just do the board a favor by not continuing to post.
Meow is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2012, 04:55 PM   #15
ceestar1
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: London, England
Posts: 547
vCash: 75
Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko: Will Trainer Manny Steward's Death Expsose Old Cracks?

Quote:
Originally Posted by doylexxx View Post
real question is who will replace Manny

no matter how experienced or accomplished a pro is, he always needs a trainer , someone on the outside providing game plans etc etc


thats gonna be a big change for Klit right now

probably Fritz again
Yep, was actually gonna start a thread on this. I hear Banks is steppin in for the Wach fight at least!
ceestar1 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

East Side Boxing Forum > Boxing > General Boxing Forum

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump








All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:16 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
East Side Boxing Forum 2001-2013