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Old 10-27-2012, 09:33 PM   #1
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Default Who had the better chin, Marciano or Frazier?

Who had the better set of whiskers, Rocky or Smokin' Joe?
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:47 PM   #2
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Default Re: Who had the better chin, Marciano or Frazier?

Probably not much in it, I'd guess. I can see Rock going the same way against Foreman. But, that's guess work, obviously.
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:56 PM   #3
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Frazier got dropped 2x by Bonavena, Mike Bruce and was staggered in several fights,Ali staggered him in fight 2 and Terry Daniels and Ron stander and Manuel Ramos stunned him....I think Marciano had a better defense and recovered quickly. I think Frazier took a good punch he got up 6x in the Foreman fight.....Marciano got hit by murderous one punch shots from Walcott and Moore but was never hurt....I think both men had good chins but Marciano's was better and I think he had a better defense than Frazier
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Default Re: Who had the better chin, Marciano or Frazier?

What a great thread!!! And a phenomenal question....I may say its a Tie..But I will say Frazier had his chin tested WAY more than The Rock.

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Old 10-27-2012, 10:08 PM   #5
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Default Re: Who had the better chin, Marciano or Frazier?

Marciano chin was made of steel.

He was hit numerous times directly on the chin and kept moving forward. I believe Louis even smacked him right on the chin and nothing happened.

Marciano's mind was his most powerful attribute.
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Old 10-27-2012, 10:32 PM   #6
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Who had the better set of whiskers, Rocky or Smokin' Joe?
so... your thread is not as conclusive as you thought it would be hmm ?
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Old 10-27-2012, 10:42 PM   #7
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Probably not much in it, I'd guess. I can see Rock going the same way against Foreman. But, that's guess work, obviously.
isn't it all. I'm probably the only one that thinks Jirov-Marciano is a FOTC competitive as **** 50/50 fight. but yeah Foreman takes Marciano's head off
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Old 10-27-2012, 11:08 PM   #8
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isn't it all. I'm probably the only one that thinks Jirov-Marciano is a FOTC competitive as **** 50/50 fight. but yeah Foreman takes Marciano's head off
So, it's not guess work at all to guess what would happen between two guys that never fought or even had opponents that fought each other? I stand corrected, Bobo. I must not understand the concept of guessing. Apparently guesses are facts. And hypothetical match-ups can be proven in black and white, exactly how they go. I am learning so much from you that it's astounding, really. Please, explain other words to me. I am eager to learn. I am a dry sponge. Pour your waters of wisdom on me.
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Old 10-27-2012, 11:20 PM   #9
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I'm more profound than I thought
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Old 10-27-2012, 11:20 PM   #10
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Impossible to say.. Both men were hit and hurt by different kinds of fighters.. Frazier was battered and stopped by George Foreman who hit harder than anyone Rocky fought, but Marciano was hit numerous times by guys who had a lot of accuracy.. Nothing solid enough to make a good comparison with.
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Old 10-27-2012, 11:23 PM   #11
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Impossible to say.. Both men were hit and hurt by different kinds of fighters.. Frazier was battered and stopped by George Foreman who hit harder than anyone Rocky fought, but Marciano was hit numerous times by guys who had a lot of accuracy.. Nothing solid enough to make a good comparison with.
fantasy match ups are also impossible to say. but everyone has no problem saying who they think wins. like assuming James Toney at 217lbs wouldn't be able to handle Rocky Marciano. well nobody knows goddamit
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fantasy match ups are also impossible to say. but everyone has no problem saying who they think wins. like assuming James Toney at 217lbs wouldn't be able to handle Rocky Marciano. well nobody knows goddamit
True, but in fantasy matchups you can also make stylistic comparisons or look at performances against similar types of opponents to draw conclusions. When judging the durability of two fighters chins you at least need to see how each man held up to punishment of a similar kind, for example, Muhammad Ali and Larry Holmes both took shots against world class punchers, and in one instance, were even hit by a common opponent ( Earnie Shavers. ) There's not much to go by when comparing Marciano or Frazier..
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Old 10-27-2012, 11:37 PM   #15
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Default Re: Who had the better chin, Marciano or Frazier?

I'd say Marciano because I saw Frazier stunned more often, particularly against Chuvalo, Ramos, Stander, Quarry, etc. Both guys had good chins but Joe was hurt more.
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