Ricky Burns and the other top lightweights.

[BlackBrenny]

Originally Posted by BlackBrenny

Craney, Ricky is not a nobody, he is a highliy highly respected/regarded lightweight, easily ranked by most serious boxing fans in europe, asia, or north america, as one of the best lightweights in the world.

And I missed out perhaps the most important group, the FIGHTERS themselves hold Ricky in as high an esteem

[Peter__1987]

Originally Posted by PityTheFool

Billy,I'm sure you've seen that myself and several others regularly defend Ricky on here,and I know you for one were all for Ricky chasing Marquez,but would you agree that unless there's a unification fight on the way,the Walsh fight is a let down for those of us who defend Ricky and as a stay busy fight,it'd be ok if the belt wasn't on the line.
I only say this because many of us feel Ricky can hold his own with anyone in the division and this fight is beneath him at this point.

well said

[rossco666]

Originally Posted by billy nelson

What a statment to make mate(ricky hasnt got anythingbut his boxing talent),well i may be wrong but if you dont have talent you dont win titles!Has long as you have boxing ability you will succeed and ricky has it in spades,he is improving with each fight and will beat any of the other champions IMO then move up to LWW.

billy i read ricky was going to visit the mayweather gym on holiday and try get some sparring. did he get any sparring over there at all?

[rossco666]

Originally Posted by perspicacity

There is an old saying ..... "Strike while the iron is hot!"

Let's not fuck about after this Walsh fight, it's time.

spot on!

[BlackBrenny]

Originally Posted by rossco666

billy i read ricky was going to visit the mayweather gym on holiday and try get some sparring. did he get any sparring over there at all?

I heard he trained there a while, got some good work done, I know he didn't get to see Mayweather as he was absent, dunno if he got any sparring

[rossco666]

Originally Posted by BlackBrenny

I heard he trained there a while, got some good work done, I know he didn't get to see Mayweather as he was absent, dunno if he got any sparring

cheers for the info mate
i know ricky loves mayweather as a boxer, theres a short vid on youtube of ricky where he say's ''hi my names ricky burns, my favourite boxer is floyd mayweather.'' i read he was hoping to meet and hopefully spar floyd. very long shot that one!

[craney91]

Originally Posted by billy nelson

What a statment to make mate(ricky hasnt got anythingbut his boxing talent),well i may be wrong but if you dont have talent you dont win titles!Has long as you have boxing ability you will succeed and ricky has it in spades,he is improving with each fight and will beat any of the other champions IMO then move up to LWW.

I said it because he isn't popular across the waters, and apart from the die-hards in America, It's very much "Ricky Burns!?! Who dat!?!"

Some fighters get by on their name, the reputation, how they sell. For instance, Audley Harrison, regardless of what anybody says, he sells a fight and he is very well known. Even if he is completely useless in the ring.

Ricky Burns has the opposite, he has the skill in the ring and has improved, but the pull and appeal outside of it across the pond isn't very powerful, and until he starts getting in the ring with top 5 world opposition at Lightweight, that won't grow. It's all about money fights in America and who can generate it. That's why Ricky Hatton in America was a no-brainer, he was undefeated and had the pull and appeal BEFORE stepping on a plane to go over to Vegas. It may be harsh, but in America Ricky Burns is "just another fighter" at the moment.

And I don't think this next fight with Liam Walsh enhances that appeal in America. Not even his die-hard fans up in Scotland are to stubborn not to admit that.

[BlackBrenny]

Craney, Ricky Hatton got publicity from a very good win over Tszyu.

Across the waters, or across the plain, there are 3 top names at lightweight, those are, Miguel Vazquez, Antonio De Marco, and Ricky Burns. Should Broner beat De Marco, he enters that bracket, but the fact is, Ricky Burns is universally recognised as one of the top names in the lightweight division, just as he was in the super-featherweight division.

I mean, you can say "Who dat?!" all you want, but the fact is, Adrien Broner knew who Ricky Burns was, before Ricky Burns knew who Adrian Broner was, that's the bottom line. Adrien Broner? WHO DAT?

Feigning ignorance doesn't quite have the same affect when you've already called the guy out a million times and mentioned him as a name youd love to fight.

[craney91]

Originally Posted by BlackBrenny

Craney, Ricky Hatton got publicity from a very good win over Tszyu.

Across the waters, or across the plain, there are 3 top names at lightweight, those are, Miguel Vazquez, Antonio De Marco, and Ricky Burns. Should Broner beat De Marco, he enters that bracket, but the fact is, Ricky Burns is universally recognised as one of the top names in the lightweight division, just as he was in the super-featherweight division.

I mean, you can say "Who dat?!" all you want, but the fact is, Adrien Broner knew who Ricky Burns was, before Ricky Burns knew who Adrian Broner was, that's the bottom line. Adrien Broner? WHO DAT?

Feigning ignorance doesn't quite have the same affect when you've already called the guy out a million times and mentioned him as a name youd love to fight.

Just me then? Must be just me that hears Ricky Burns talk about Adrien Broner after every fight.

I first heard this, maybe 3 fights ago.

[joegrundy]

Ricky Burns is the best lightweight in the world, he will prove it soon.

[rossco666]

Originally Posted by craney91

Just me then? Must be just me that hears Ricky Burns talk about Adrien Broner after every fight.

I first heard this, maybe 3 fights ago.

Burns spoke of fighting broner once back at super feather because broner was calling him out, which he is doing alot of at lightweight as well. Why the fuck would burns start calling out broner when he has fuck all to offer. (dont say money). Broner has called out every champ at the weight while burns doesnt and dont need to call out or talk about any fighter without a belt. If ricky has spoke about fighting broner its a reaction to broner calling him out. I think you need to get it in your head burns is the world champion not broner.

[billy nelson]

Originally Posted by rossco666

billy i read ricky was going to visit the mayweather gym on holiday and try get some sparring. did he get any sparring over there at all?

No mate he just hit the bags for 10 rounds per day,I think he meet the dad and uncle

[Bellewlovechild]

Broners first fight at the weight is demarco, Burns is fighting a fucking farmer let him move up and dodge more

[JamieC]

lets face it i think ricky wants and would win the unifications, but it looks like ***** has managed to get a mandatory made for early next year, he does not want ricky to have these fights so he's lobbied the WBO to force ricky not to, so sad and such a waste if ricky doesnt for *****'s hand here

[PityTheFool]

Originally Posted by Bellewlovechild

Broners first fight at the weight is demarco, Burns is fighting a fucking farmer let him move up and dodge more

And Ricky's first fight at the weight was against Katsidis,whom 99% of people picked to win.
Walsh is a bad,bad fight,but let's not make silly comparisons.Have any of the top names actually lobbied Ricky for a fight?
When Broner,Vasquez or Demarco come out and offer or demand a fight with Ricky,then your comparison will stand up.