Kelly Pavlik vs Sven Ottke

Xplosive · 10-29-2012, 02:35 AM

Who woulda won?

red cobra · 10-29-2012, 05:09 AM

I would have to go with the clever Ottke to find a way to outpoint Pavlik.Brains and resourcefulness over the guy with the power and all the physical advantages.

Boxed Ears · 10-29-2012, 05:30 AM

Dammit, X.

Suga · 10-29-2012, 06:17 AM

I hate Ottke that ducker who never fought outside Germany and had many hometown decisions, but Pavlik is shit he would get embaressed

bodhi · 10-29-2012, 06:50 AM

8-4 for Ottke. As with most fights Ottke would dominate the forst 7-8 rounds, securing his decision win and then get on his bike making it close than it actually was. As he once said, "he doesn´t wanna end up like Ali or others and doesn´t care if he pleases a crowds. It´s about winning and making money."

PowerPuncher · 10-29-2012, 11:06 AM

Firstly Ottke is nowhere near as good as Hopkins or even Martinez. He has a tight high guard and worked well as a defensive spoiler, while not being that quick. Most of his best opponents pushed him all the way or beat him.

Who's the best and biggest jabber Ottke faced? Pavlik has what 5 inches in height and reach, for a high workrate quality jab that's quite a bit. Pavlik maybe the best offensive fighting Ottke would have fought too

I see this as likely being pretty close, but I'd lean towards Pavlik I think depending on the judging criteria and how they value the weight behind punches

Jamal Perkins · 10-29-2012, 12:36 PM

Ottke faced a lot more "bigger and better jabbers" than Pavlik.
He fought and beat a fair few LHs despite his size inc Glen Johnson, Silvio Branco and at SM he beat Brewer twice despites Charles's whining. Ottke couldnt seemingly punch but had a way of making stronger bigger men cover up and be impotent when he made those charges of his. As for being a crowd pleaser, well the crowds in germany certainly loved him and the shows he would put on. It was a tradition in the twelth round of a Ottke fight for the crowd (most them replendescent in black evening dress) to stand and cheer and clap ottke home as he usually went on his bike in the last round.

Webbiano · 10-29-2012, 12:56 PM

It's true, Ottke is no Hopkins, however Pavlik barely won a round that night and Ottke although a notorious ducker was an incredibly clever fighter and could spoil his way through the 12 rounds. Pavlik has good power, but I doubt he's got enough to stop Sven, however still enough to be watchful of it. Pavlik also seems to limit his great physical advantages by abandoning his jab at times and throwing single shots at a time, which gives me a slight insentive to take Ottke.

In Germany Ottke by a questionably competitive decision
On neutral grounds Ottke by MD

10-29-2012, 02:35 AM	#1
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red cobra P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Sea of Tranquility Posts: 22,151 vCash: 1000	Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Sven Ottke I would have to go with the clever Ottke to find a way to outpoint Pavlik.Brains and resourcefulness over the guy with the power and all the physical advantages.
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10-29-2012, 05:30 AM	#3
Boxed Ears Lowering Post Count East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Brunoilia, Hehsland Posts: 51,280 vCash: 7500	Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Sven Ottke Dammit, X.
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10-29-2012, 06:17 AM	#4
Suga Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2010 Location: On the moon Posts: 1,751 vCash: 75	Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Sven Ottke I hate Ottke that ducker who never fought outside Germany and had many hometown decisions, but Pavlik is shit he would get embaressed
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10-29-2012, 06:50 AM	#5
bodhi So I can die easy ... East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 21,759 vCash: 1337	Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Sven Ottke 8-4 for Ottke. As with most fights Ottke would dominate the forst 7-8 rounds, securing his decision win and then get on his bike making it close than it actually was. As he once said, "he doesn´t wanna end up like Ali or others and doesn´t care if he pleases a crowds. It´s about winning and making money."
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10-29-2012, 11:06 AM	#6
PowerPuncher ESB Junkie East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 30,707 vCash: 1000	Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Sven Ottke Firstly Ottke is nowhere near as good as Hopkins or even Martinez. He has a tight high guard and worked well as a defensive spoiler, while not being that quick. Most of his best opponents pushed him all the way or beat him. Who's the best and biggest jabber Ottke faced? Pavlik has what 5 inches in height and reach, for a high workrate quality jab that's quite a bit. Pavlik maybe the best offensive fighting Ottke would have fought too I see this as likely being pretty close, but I'd lean towards Pavlik I think depending on the judging criteria and how they value the weight behind punches
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10-29-2012, 12:36 PM	#7
Jamal Perkins Journeyman Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 60 vCash: 500	Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Sven Ottke Ottke faced a lot more "bigger and better jabbers" than Pavlik. He fought and beat a fair few LHs despite his size inc Glen Johnson, Silvio Branco and at SM he beat Brewer twice despites Charles's whining. Ottke couldnt seemingly punch but had a way of making stronger bigger men cover up and be impotent when he made those charges of his. As for being a crowd pleaser, well the crowds in germany certainly loved him and the shows he would put on. It was a tradition in the twelth round of a Ottke fight for the crowd (most them replendescent in black evening dress) to stand and cheer and clap ottke home as he usually went on his bike in the last round.
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10-29-2012, 12:56 PM	#8
Webbiano Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: England Posts: 3,036 vCash: 500	Re: Kelly Pavlik vs Sven Ottke It's true, Ottke is no Hopkins, however Pavlik barely won a round that night and Ottke although a notorious ducker was an incredibly clever fighter and could spoil his way through the 12 rounds. Pavlik has good power, but I doubt he's got enough to stop Sven, however still enough to be watchful of it. Pavlik also seems to limit his great physical advantages by abandoning his jab at times and throwing single shots at a time, which gives me a slight insentive to take Ottke. In Germany Ottke by a questionably competitive decision On neutral grounds Ottke by MD
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