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Old 10-30-2012, 04:56 PM   #16
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Bob Fitzsimmons, depending upon how you feel about the Hall loss, could have a case for being p4p #1 in both chin and power. Extraordinary.
Really? I can't see how this is a logical choice having been stopped by the likes of Jeffries, Johnson and a few more. Although well past his best this just doesn't seem like a very strong claim at all, I'd much rather take Langford over Fitzsimmons.

Personally I think Toney or McCall have the best claim to the ATG p4p chin
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:32 PM   #19
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Glen Johnson also deserves a mention. Although obviously not no.1 he's up there.
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:18 AM   #20
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Basilio also deserves a shout
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Old 10-31-2012, 02:42 AM   #22
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Bob Fitzsimmons, depending upon how you feel about the Hall loss, could have a case for being p4p #1 in both chin and power. Extraordinary.
Whether you think the Hall loss is legit' or not (Fitz is a bullshitter so I give Hall benefit of the doubt) Corbett had him on giddy legs and we have footage of that. So I wouldn't say so, although he was undoubtedly NAILS and giving up weight.

I'll take Villasana.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:23 AM   #23
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Fitzsimmons used an extremely aggressive style as a super-middle/sometime light-heavy against the world's best HW's and typically won. If Andre Ward was put on "giddy legs" by Marco Huck weighing at at the SMW limit but fighting for the CW title after taking flush heavy punches, I doubt we'd write off his chin. In fact I suspect we'd be lauding it as granite.

Villasana, of course, is granite, but he's just not as proven for me. In fact, I'd take Fitzsimmons KO losses to Jeffries as a sign that his chin is exceptional over and above what we learned about Villasana's chin fighting feathers.

If he'd swapped bombs with punching welterweights? Then he'd have a case I think.
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Gotta go with LaMotta and Hagler. Armstrong had a grat chin too, so did Saddler.
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Fitzsimmons used an extremely aggressive style as a super-middle/sometime light-heavy against the world's best HW's and typically won. If Andre Ward was put on "giddy legs" by Marco Huck weighing at at the SMW limit but fighting for the CW title after taking flush heavy punches, I doubt we'd write off his chin. In fact I suspect we'd be lauding it as granite.

Villasana, of course, is granite, but he's just not as proven for me. In fact, I'd take Fitzsimmons KO losses to Jeffries as a sign that his chin is exceptional over and above what we learned about Villasana's chin fighting feathers.

If he'd swapped bombs with punching welterweights? Then he'd have a case I think.
This is all fair.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:57 AM   #26
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Good shout with Ben Tackie, what a ****in beast he was.Never stopped in 12 defeats. Hatton said he hit him with everything and he was still laughing his head off at him in the 12th.One hard bastard.

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Old 10-31-2012, 01:36 PM   #27
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Joe Grimm deserves a mention. Billy Graham could have the greatest.

Also, Sugar Ray Robinson, I believe, doesn't get enough credit for his chin.

Did anyone mention, Randy Cobb?
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Joe Grimm deserves a mention. Billy Graham could have the greatest.

Also, Sugar Ray Robinson, I believe, doesn't get enough credit for his chin.

Did anyone mention, Randy Cobb?
I mentioned Cobb.
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Also, Sugar Ray Robinson, I believe, doesn't get enough credit for his chin.
Nor his fighting days as a Middleweight. People actually believe he didn't carry a bigger punch weighing in at the 154-160 range when his record and the film say that he did.
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