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Old 10-31-2012, 12:34 AM   #16
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I have never scored the first fight for Rivera. A classic case of a contender doing better than he was thought to have done pre-fight by "experts" in a losing effort.
You have never scored that fight correctly then. That's your problem. Talk to your Maker about that one.

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Tiger Flowers....? Seamus?
Totes.

Probably didn't win the first Greb fight, certainly didn't win the second.
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Old 10-31-2012, 12:39 AM   #18
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Did Hearns win a controversial decision? Did Hagler? I don't think Lennox did, unless you count Mercer.
Hearns got a controversial decision win against James Kinchen, in fact Kinchen was also probably robbed of kayo win against Hearns cause in the early rounds Kinchen hurt Tommy real bad and Tommy clinched Kinchen so tight while ignoring the ref that Tommy got deducted two points from the ref.
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Old 10-31-2012, 12:41 AM   #19
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You have never scored that fight correctly then. That's your problem. Talk to your Maker about that one.



Totes.

Probably didn't win the first Greb fight, certainly didn't win the second.
My maker scores fights clearly and fairly.


Agreed on Flowers though.
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Old 10-31-2012, 12:49 AM   #20
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nah not at all the case, even ESB's resident Pernell fanatic sweetscientist will tell you that fight could have been scored for Rivera.

And keep in mind just because you felt Pea won doesn't mean it wasn't controversial.
What was controversial about it? Controversial is Casa/Santa Cruz. This was a close fight that Whitaker won. No gift, by ANY means.

Take your Rican blinders off, Benny.
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:00 AM   #21
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What was controversial about it? Controversial is Casa/Santa Cruz. This was a close fight that Whitaker won. No gift, by ANY means.

Take your Rican blinders off, Benny.
Rican blinders? show me once where I have been bias for Puerto Rican fighters?....**** outta here with that, if you felt Pea won than fine, but it was controversial which is why Pea gave Rivera a rematch. And again I'm not necessarily asking which fighters never received a gift, that's very subjective but asking who has never won a controversial decision win isn't as subjective.
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:09 AM   #22
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Rican blinders? show me once where I have been bias for Puerto Rican fighters?....**** outta here with that, if you felt Pea won than fine, but it was controversial which is why Pea gave Rivera a rematch. And again I'm not necessarily asking which fighters never received a gift, that's very subjective but asking who has never won a controversial decision win isn't as subjective.
The fight wasn't controversial though.

What did you score DLH/Trinidad?
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:17 AM   #23
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The fight wasn't controversial though.

What did you score DLH/Trinidad?
You sir are thick

And you're trying to make this into something it ain't. Do you comprehend the premise of my thread subject?......saying a fight is controversial or calling it a robbery/gift are not one in the same.

Answer me this, if the Whitaker/Rivera fight was not controversial then why did Whitaker feel the need to give Rivera a rematch?

And DLH won the Tito fight but a draw could have been scored if one reaches a bit for Tito......it ain't Tito's fault DLH fought and ran like a bitch.
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:29 AM   #24
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You sir are thick

And you're trying to make this into something it ain't. Do you comprehend the premise of my thread subject?......saying a fight is controversial or calling it a robbery/gift are not one in the same.

Answer me this, if the Whitaker/Rivera fight was not controversial then why did Whitaker feel the need to give Rivera a rematch?

And DLH won the Tito fight but a draw could have been scored if one reaches a bit for Tito......it ain't Tito's fault DLH fought and ran like a bitch.


Whitaker gave Rivera the rematch because Ike and Trinidad dropped out.
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:37 AM   #25
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Whitaker gave Rivera the rematch because Ike and Trinidad dropped out.
I'm not so sure if that's true but the fact still remains Pea gave him a rematch cause more than enough people felt he didn't beat Rivera.

Now lets just move on. Do you still not see the difference in a person calling a fight controversial rather than a gift/robbery?
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The fight wasn't controversial though.

What did you score DLH/Trinidad?
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:45 AM   #27
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:48 AM   #28
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I'm not so sure if that's true but the fact still remains Pea gave him a rematch cause more than enough people felt he didn't beat Rivera.

Now lets just move on. Do you still not see the difference in a person calling a fight controversial rather than a gift/robbery?
No it was true. Didn't yuo follow Tito's career back then? He dropped out because of managerial problems an Quartey was hurt/sick during training.

What was controversial though? Tell me.

It was a SPLIT decision. A close fight. Whitaker won. A split verdict reflects that it was close.

Controversial is more like Ali/Norton trilogy before Whitaker/Rivera 1.
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No it was true. Didn't yuo follow Tito's career back then? He dropped out because of managerial problems an Quartey was hurt/sick during training.

What was controversial though? Tell me.

It was a SPLIT decision. A close fight. Whitaker won. A split verdict reflects that it was close.

Controversial is more like Ali/Norton trilogy before Whitaker/Rivera 1.
It was controversial cause people felt Rivera won, what else is there for me to tell on why it was controversial, you can't be this thick.

I'm not saying it was a gift or robbery and Whitaker wouldn't just give him a rematch just because a fight or two he might have had planned didn't pan out.......

Case in point, lets take the DLH/Whitaker fight for example, that's a very controversial fight, but I felt Oscar deserved the decision win, but was it a controversial decision win? yes it was!
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It was controversial cause people felt Rivera won, what else is there for me to tell on why it was controversial, you can't be this thick.

I'm not saying it was a gift or robbery and Whitaker wouldn't just give him a rematch just because a fight or two he might have had planned didn't pan out.......

Case in point, lets take the DLH/Whitaker fight for example, that's a very controversial fight, but I felt Oscar deserved the decision win, but was it a controversial decision win? yes it was!
Speaking for the Oscar fan boys, Whitaker/Oscar was MUCH closer than Rivera/Whitaker 1 IMO
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