is Pernel Whitaker Overrated?

[ushvinder]

Originally Posted by DaveK

Seeing the guy fight and the manner in which he won more than picks up the slack for his lack of names and tests on his ledger.

Yeah, never seeing the guy fight and just looking at his resume, you get little sense of how awesome he was, but that's the way it is with tons of fighters.

Actually ive seen every one of whitakers relevant fights from 1989-1997, all of them, nice to see you get emotional about it, should i give you a tissue paper?

Once mayweather and pac retire, then they will be appreciated, when whitaker actually fought, people really didnt care about him.

[orriray59]

Im sure you've called everyone of mayweathers opponents a bum.

Way to make an assumption you fucking cunt. Mayweather is one of my favorite fighters, ever.

I would probably pick whitaker to beat somone like carlos ortiz head to head, but ortiz beat 6 hall of famers and 10 other very good fighters. Kind of hard to say whitaker accomplished more.

According to you all of Whit's notable opponents were nothing more than average fighters.

If whitaker fans want to cry everytime he was robbed, why cant i say pacquiao absoletely tooled timothy bradley, a welterweight champ that was naturally 30 pounds bigger than pac.

Say it all you fucking like.

I think both duran and whitaker get romanticed on this board by the way.

Wow, I didn't see that coming anyway.

Jose Napoles on the other hand is entirely dismissed. Wouldnt be shocked at all if napoles handed both of them thier ass.

How the fuck do you know if he's dismissed? Do you even watch these boards? Napoles is a highly revered legend on here FFS. Stop assuming things. Have you ever seen Whitaker fight, even?

[lora]

Originally Posted by ushvinder

Actually ive seen every one of whitakers relevant fights from 1989-1997, all of them, nice to see you get emotional about it, should i give you a tissue paper?

Once mayweather and pac retire, then they will be appreciated, when whitaker actually fought, people really didnt care about him.

Fuck mayweather and pac.

[ushvinder]

Originally Posted by orriray59

Way to make an assumption you fucking cunt. Mayweather is one of my favorite fighters, ever.


According to you all of Whit's notable opponents were nothing more than average fighters.


Say it all you fucking like.




Wow, I didn't see that coming anyway.


How the fuck do you know if he's dismissed? Do you even watch these boards? Napoles is a highly revered legend on here FFS. Stop assuming things. Have you ever seen Whitaker fight, even?

Yes ive seen him fight, i saw him look rather average against paez and lose 4 rounds, i basically saw him lose 6-7 rounds against wilfredo rivera and i saw him struggle life and death with hurtado before the ko. Napoles would tool him.

[orriray59]

Originally Posted by ushvinder

Actually ive seen every one of whitakers relevant fights from 1989-1997, all of them, nice to see you get emotional about it, should i give you a tissue paper?

Once mayweather and pac retire, then they will be appreciated, when whitaker actually fought, people really didnt care about him.

Jesus, you're boring as hell. Yeah, we get it. Whitaker was overrated because you said so. Yeah, yeah, we understand now. We're all terribly wrong and you, enlightened one, know some background shit that we don't.

And here I was thinking Ramirez, Chavez, McGirt, Haugen, Brazier, Rivera, etc. Were any good. Turns out they were all past prime/irrelevant from the beginning.

[ushvinder]

Wow rivera is actually good now, i guess embrassing pea makes a journeyman a star.

[orriray59]

Originally Posted by ushvinder

Yes ive seen him fight, i saw him look rather average against paez and lose 4 rounds, i basically saw him lose 6-7 rounds against wilfredo rivera and i saw him struggle life and death with hurtado before the ko. Napoles would tool him.

He lost rounds to good fighters? Damn. Napoles won every round against every good fighter he fought after all. Oh, wait....

[orriray59]

Originally Posted by ushvinder

Wow rivera is actually good now, i guess embrassing pea makes a journeyman a star.

So an unbeaten guy who gave Pernell Whitaker a tough fight is now considered a journeyman?

[Flea Man]

Originally Posted by ushvinder

Ike quartey arguably beat oscar, but floyd would get his butt kicked. I thought everyone he keeps saying pernell was past it, so why keep bringing up guys pea fought when he was old, why dont u focus on guys whitaker fought when he was 'invincible'. I honestly wouldnt be shocked if shane mosley went undefeated against whitaker;s opponents from 1985-1996, his resume is so thin for someone that gets worshipped like a god on this site. Great great fighter, but overrated accomplishments.

Mosley's competition at lightweight was ABYSMAL. And you talk of double standards?

[Flea Man]

The guy comes on 'I rank Whitaker over Floyd'.

It's clear he's a butt hurt Floyd apologist. Fuck off.

[Flea Man]

Also you can't say 'Tim Bradley was a welterweight champion 30lbs heavier' because neither are true.

Another window licker. Great

[orriray59]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

Also you can't say 'Tim Bradley was a welterweight champion 30lbs heavier' because neither are true.

Another window licker. Great

I was a bit confused at that one. Wasn't Bradley... Y'know, moving up a division to fight Pacquiao?

[turbotime]

MacG ?

[Flea Man]

He'd previously taken the '0' of Abregu...who will know be deemed a relevant welter by the OP due to his win over Dulorme this past weekend

I give Manny 'winners kudos' for his showing against Timmy. Last three rounds he loses credit.

To the OP; I take it you rank Luis Manuel Rodriguez over Roy, Pernell, Floyd, Manny???

[orriray59]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

He'd previously taken the '0' of Abregu...who will know be deemed a relevant welter by the OP due to his win over Dulorme this past weekend

I give Manny 'winners kudos' for his showing against Timmy. Last three rounds he loses credit.

Abregu > McGirt.

Alexander > Ramirez.

Bradley > Whitaker. It's irrefutable.