What if Frazier and Ali fought in the 60s?

VG_Addict · 10-31-2012, 07:55 PM

What if Frazier and Ali had their first fight in the mid to late 60s? This, of course, assumes Ali was never exiled.

MAG1965 · 10-31-2012, 09:51 PM

Ali would have won mid rounds on TKO.

yancey · 10-31-2012, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MAG1965

Ali would have won mid rounds on TKO.

PhillyPhan69 · 10-31-2012, 11:00 PM

Frazier was much better in 68-69 than he was in 71....So an even wider margin of victory can be excpected!

zendo59 · 11-01-2012, 03:43 AM

Ali by TKO; Frazier never becomes champ.

Danmann · 11-01-2012, 03:44 AM

Frazier wins, I think he was at his best 1969.

doug.ie · 11-01-2012, 03:53 AM

but what about versions of each that we did see...i mean, we didnt see a 69 ali...so how would a 67 fight between them have gone, it possibly could have happened

groove · 11-01-2012, 06:56 AM

frazier doesn't beat a 60s Ali without exile. his best chance is from 1970 onwards.

Boxed Ears · 11-01-2012, 07:55 AM

More importantly, what would have happened if Ali fought a prime Liston, in 1935, when Liston was 28? Liston KO1 Ali.

tezel8764 · 11-01-2012, 07:57 AM

Liston was 54 in 1935 though.

Stevie G · 11-01-2012, 08:05 AM

I've a gut feeling that things would have panned out similarly to real time.

Ali takes two out of three in a hard fought series. These two would always have a war no matter when they fought.

yancey · 11-01-2012, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by zendo59

Ali by TKO; Frazier never becomes champ.

mr. magoo · 11-01-2012, 09:46 AM

I like muhammad Ali to take this by a comfortable decision. Ali was still developing rapidly in the late 60's, and had his momentum not been dissrupted by the lengthy exhile, his skills would have been in perfect tact. With both Ali and Frazier burning the candle at both ends by eating up all the available contenders, its likely that they would have been forced together around 1968. At this point we'd be looking at a peak Ali and a somewhat less experienced Frazier.

orriray59 · 11-01-2012, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by yancey

Solid argument.

clinikill · 11-01-2012, 10:10 AM

Ali wins via decision.

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