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Old 11-02-2012, 05:33 PM   #1
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I just don't see it. The Silakh win wasn't luck at all. Those are some great odds for this fight.
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Old 11-02-2012, 05:34 PM   #2
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I agree but isn't this fight at SMW and not at LMW where he defeated Silakh?
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Old 11-02-2012, 05:38 PM   #3
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the weight sucks
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Old 11-02-2012, 05:44 PM   #4
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Grachev already weight 3 times at 170 and under , he's not a big LHW , i don't think the weight will be a factor here!
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Old 11-02-2012, 05:45 PM   #5
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Grachev already weight 3 times at 170 and under , he's not a big LHW , i don't think the weight will be a factor here!

I agree
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Old 11-02-2012, 06:48 PM   #6
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The fight is officially LHW, thou actually the fight is at a catch-weight [170].
Grachev came 1 pound + lighter than the limit so I guess wasn't that hard to slim down. Also Grachev is a small LHW.
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Old 11-02-2012, 07:08 PM   #7
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Grachev already weight 3 times at 170 and under , he's not a big LHW , i don't think the weight will be a factor here!
Yes, and the last time he weighed 170 he looked pretty bad. The weight and venue will both be huge factors. Also, though he looked good against a solid southpaw(Biosse) , he's going to a very hostile environment and fighting someone who's at least 2 levels better than his best opponent (Sillakh). Bute realizes what's at stake here and will not take Grachev lightly...
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i don't think Garchev is mispriced here. if he at least was able to jump in and throw some combinations to bring some heat or something but he seems to be quite terrible actually, not really a boxer and lacks most basic stuff. also throws one punch at a time and caves in after. Garchev really shouldn't be a threat imo, Lucy already beat much better opponents than him
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Old 11-02-2012, 07:48 PM   #9
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Hey, Lucian has issues with pressure. I am backing him to win as always but if Grachev backs him up and rains in the right hands maybe an upset is possible. If you like a risk then I guess toss in a few $ on Grachev.
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Old 11-02-2012, 07:57 PM   #10
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I just don't see it. The Silakh win wasn't luck at all. Those are some great odds for this fight.
It was lucky in the sense that Sillakh didn't do what most fighters would do in that situation : he didn't even try to hold. No survival skills whatsoever. Also Sillakh had him hurt and could haves stopped him but it's just not in his temperament to go for the kill early.
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Old 11-02-2012, 10:12 PM   #11
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Grachev, looks in serious shape.
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Old 11-02-2012, 10:52 PM   #12
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Grachev will not win this fight. He was getting ruined by Sillakh up until the KO. Be real.
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Old 11-02-2012, 10:52 PM   #13
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In all honesty, the odds makers have seen the two fight. I'd be shocked if Bute doesn't kick his ass and stop him by the mid rounds.

Just for the record, don't look at my location, I support more American fighters and I am not a bu****. Only seen the dude fight twice! But have seen Grachev fight once, and that was all the tape I needed. He's got a good chin and he's a tough guy, but he aint even remotely slick and will get out-boxed bad.
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:05 AM   #14
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Hey, Lucian has issues with pressure. I am backing him to win as always but if Grachev backs him up and rains in the right hands maybe an upset is possible. If you like a risk then I guess toss in a few $ on Grachev.
Some on this site may like that kind of price regardless of the situation so you're probably right. I personally look for the best value and there really is no value here, IMO.
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