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Old 11-04-2012, 06:25 PM   #46
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All points aside, that article is crap. It also somehow has Trinidad in there, which makes no sense.

Off the top of my head and in random order, these guys were better than Paz and Trinidad:
Tarver
Ruiz
Griffin
Hill
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Can't believe people believe Paz is Jones' 10 best wins. Woods is more deserving of a slot than Paz.
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What if Robinson fought Basilio at welterweight?
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:08 PM   #48
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Roy is levels above any fighter at MW Robinson KO'd. Roy could have Ko'd Fullmer and Turpin as well in a round of his choosing, certain of it.

Ray had a puncher's chance sure, but his willingness to mix it up would have gotten himself stopped by a guy with the countering ability of a Jones jr.



























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And who did Roy stop at MW? Robinson is levels about anybody Roy fought, and everybody he didn't..
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:34 PM   #49
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Can't believe people believe Paz is Jones' 10 best wins. Woods is more deserving of a slot than Paz.
Plenty of others. I just listed 10.
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:35 PM   #50
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Different level of competiton. Fullmer had one of the great chins. He was also the Middleweight Champion of the World at the time he walked into that hook.
Fullmer was a mediocre pressure fighter with little or no defensive skills. Malinga was a better boxer, actually, better defensive skills.
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:40 PM   #52
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Maybe so, but Robinson has a better chin than Jones.
That's why he was dropped multiple times by non-punchers.
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:45 PM   #53
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And who did Roy stop at MW? Robinson is levels about anybody Roy fought, and everybody he didn't..
Hopkins wasn't a bad Middleweight
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Hopkins wasn't a bad Middleweight
Nah, he was a great one. Though he had done basically nothing up to that point to suggest he was an elite fighter. Was still trying to scrap solidifying himself as top ten material. It's easy to say Jones was better than anybody Ray stopped at MW, but the opposite is even far more true and glaring.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:17 PM   #55
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Roy beats any Hopkins. Even Hopkins knows this.
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Lovely.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:52 PM   #57
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Lovely.
Well, besides the ones that used canes to get into the ring a few years back
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:26 PM   #58
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All points aside, that article is crap. It also somehow has Trinidad in there, which makes no sense.

Off the top of my head and in random order, these guys were better than Paz and Trinidad:
Tarver
Ruiz
Griffin
Hill
Hopkins
Toney
Gonzales
Harding
McCallum
Johnson
I'd throw in Jorge Castro and Thomas Tate as better wins than Trinidad and Pazienza as well and probably Sugarboy Malinga and Clinton Woods also.

Agreed that was a ****ing garbage article as well.
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I'd throw in Jorge Castro and Thomas Tate as better wins than Trinidad and Pazienza as well and probably Sugarboy Malinga and Clinton Woods also.

Agreed that was a ****ing garbage article as well.
I don't disagree.
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:31 AM   #60
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You people need to realise that some people may read that and think you guys are serious. So, stop the goofing around.

No Jones is not in Robinsonīs league. Jones could have been but instead became a big disappointment, going the easy way instead of the hard one, ending up with a mediocre legacy - in comparison with other greats.
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